On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 06:02:52PM -0600, Peter Harpending wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 09:50:13PM +0200, mray wrote:
> > Hello everybody,
> > 
> > So here is my candidate:
> > 
> > 
> > "WE FUND FREE CULTURE."
> > 
> > WE       indicates that it is about people (many!), maybe including you
> > FUND     covers our financial angle
> > FREE     is the best compressed version of Free/Libre/Open
> > CULTURE  represents the scope of different content we support
> > 
> 
> The slogan in the IRC channel's /topic is "Clearing the path to a
> free/libre/open world" or some such. I thought that was the slogan. It's
> a good slogan. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what a slogan is.

It's true: We *do* have a slogan, and arguments to change it must be
heard.

Here are some other thoughts of mine:

In Aaron's response on the design list, he seems to imply that "open"
is dead to us as a word to describe the kinds of works we want to
support. I reject that claim. We don't *have* to use it, but I believe
we *can* use it. Just because there is a thing called "open washing",
and just because some close-minded people at an otherwise
freedom-favoring organization have declared it anathema, doesn't mean
it is now a meaningless word. If we want to give up every word that
somebody makes a concerted effort to pervert, soon our language will
consist of nothing but "buy now" and "Coke". I don't want the o-word
to become like the n-word.

On that note, (again referring to Aaron's other email), the fact that
some dastardly folks have decided to pervert the term "free culture"
to mean something that is absolutely nothing like its current meaning,
doesn't mean we have to play along. Free culture, in my opinion, is
the English phrase where "free" has the strongest connotation with
"libre". Culture is already free-as-in-beer. I won't be bullied or
brainwashed into thinking it is anything otherwise.

Regarding Robert's suggestion: putting aside the question of
discarding our existing slogan, I would suggest one tweak. "We" does
not, in fact, suggest to me that it is "about peaple (many!), maybe
including [me]". It instead suggests an exclusive "we". I think the
following has a more inclusive feel: "Funding free culture, together".

That's all I got. I'm interested to hear more thoughts.

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