On 10/14/2010 03:30 PM, NoOp wrote: > On 10/14/2010 05:57 AM, Malte Timmermann wrote: > ... >> >> It's not clear to me how contributions to LO will make their way to >> OpenOffice.org. >> >> For me, it looks very much one-way: LO grabbing a lot of stuff from OOo, >> but LO not contributing anything to OOo. > ... > > In the same hand it's not clear, to me, why OOo haven't taken advantage > of code contributions from others - go-oo for example... A prime example > of this is OOo's stance on not using, or offering gstreamer, and instead > insisting linux users using closed, old (2003), outdated, not-updated, > jmf instead for sound & video. In July it was announce that OOo will > finally support gstreamer: > > <http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/better_multimedia_support_for_openoffice1> > [comments are necessary reading] > > <http://people.gnome.org/~michael/blog/2010-07-06-ooo-gstreamer.html> > > Supposedly OOo will have gstreamer in OOo 3.4? I see no sign of it in > 3.3dev.
OK, the to & fro regarding my question was somewhat interesting... I still have no idea which stance is correct. However I do have an additional question for the Sun/Oracle folks that maintain that Novell/go-oo wouldn't/couldn't/didn't share gstreamer code with them: what prevented Sun from developing their own code/patches using gstreamer to begin with? While I see the 'unstable' argument used, JMF wasn't/isn't exactly the most "stable"; it is of course sincerely old, outdated & not user install friendly. Previous versions of gstreamer may not have been considered "stable", but then again it is LGPL and the code has always been available for OOo Sun devs to use/modify/implement... not to mention contribue to. Certainly the devs for these applications found it useful: http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/apps/ not to mention just about all linux distros. Point being is from a "users" perspective, the lack of proper sound & video support in OOo linux has been a thorn in OOo's side for quite some time... hence the reason to use the ximian/go-oo builds instead. One only needs to search the OOo users list for threads with Impress issues regarding sound & video. If OOo/Oracle/whoever succeeds in ridding standard OOo of JMF & implementing gstreamer, or similar, then OOo will have a chance in to office wars. But if OOo does not, then I reckon folks will contine to use alternatives that do. Afterall, these are tools which are meant to be productive. There are of course other basic issues with OOo/Impress/et al. Given that Christian Lippka spent time posting about gstreamer, I wonder as we approach the 1 year anniversary of this thread: Subject: Embedding Audio/Video in Impress documents Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:11:16 +0100 (dev user-experience) http://ux.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=4414 my reply: http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=users&msgNo=200585 what, if any, progress has been made? Here's another: forms. http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=users&msgNo=191561 http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=79720 http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=33737 If OOo can't fix that, gstreamer, etc., then of course users will turn to alternatives. Whether those are OOo alternatives, or other opensource/commercial alternatives are, I suppose, up to the OOo/LibO/go-oo dev communities to decide. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
