I'm here now, but leaving in 30 mins to return around 9 tonight On Feb 6, 2014 4:30 PM, "Becca Salchak" <blsalc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I can be down at Synhak at like 9 tonight > On Feb 6, 2014 4:13 PM, "Craig Bergdorf" <mm1...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'll happily draw it up as it's being discussed. I am also busy with >> SparkAK this weekend, what about tonight at 8? If not, then how about >> Monday? >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Craig Bergdorf <mm1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Right here for #5 >>> On Feb 6, 2014 2:58 PM, "Philip P. Patnode" <ppatn...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> So, who is going to be #5? >>>> >>>> Torrie @ 1324 >>>> >>>> Becca @ 1407 >>>> >>>> Justin @ 1408 >>>> >>>> Devin @ 1440 >>>> >>>> #5 @ ? >>>> >>>> Good to see that some of the members are interested and motivated to >>>> get the new floorplan finalized. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:40 PM, degerov...@yahoo.com < >>>> degerov...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I volunteer myself for the committee. Can we meet tomorrow at 7pm at >>>>> the space? >>>>> >>>>> Devin. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on >>>>> Android<http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> * From: * Becca Salchak <blsalc...@yahoo.com>; >>>>> * To: * SYN/HAK discussion list <discuss@synhak.org>; >>>>> * Subject: * Re: [SH-Discuss] another zoning proposal >>>>> * Sent: * Thu, Feb 6, 2014 7:07:38 PM >>>>> >>>>> Id like to volunteer myself for the committee >>>>> On Feb 6, 2014 1:24 PM, "Torrie Fischer" <tdfisc...@hackerbots.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, February 06, 2014 12:31:45 Philip P. Patnode wrote: >>>>>> > Torrie is doing what she needs to do in the face of the continuing >>>>>> > bickering, deal making, personal agendas, ego-driven land grabs, >>>>>> and the >>>>>> > subtle obstructionism shown by some members over the floorplan. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > In the face of complete chaos and a looming deadline, form a >>>>>> committee. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Yes, I am serious. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Following the philosophy of action as a "do'ocracy", some motivated >>>>>> members >>>>>> > should assemble to discuss the floorplan and make a final decision. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Five people, with sharp pencils and blank paper, can sketch out a >>>>>> > compromise floorplan in under an hour. Add another half hour for >>>>>> coffee >>>>>> > and revisions. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is an excellent idea. I think this could also be a wonderful >>>>>> experiment >>>>>> in an improved governance process for the space. Consensus is >>>>>> starting to fall >>>>>> apart. >>>>>> >>>>>> There was recently a large thread on noisebridge-discuss along the >>>>>> very same >>>>>> lines. I will look at their discussion and see what happened. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm wholly in favor of such a committee producing a floorplan with >>>>>> this >>>>>> limited set of rules: >>>>>> >>>>>> * The floorplan is binding on The Community until March 2nd at 00:00 >>>>>> * No significant modifications may be done to the floorplan after the >>>>>> floorplan is approved without majority approval from the committee >>>>>> members >>>>>> * Any committee member may declare a modification to be significant >>>>>> such that >>>>>> it is required to be approved by the committee >>>>>> * The floorplan shall not include anything that cannot be >>>>>> uninstalled, moved, >>>>>> disassembled, or otherwise modified over a two day weekend after >>>>>> March 3rd >>>>>> without unaminous approval from the committee members >>>>>> * The committee is dissolved on March 2nd at 00:00 >>>>>> * Additions to the committee shall not change without majority >>>>>> approval from >>>>>> the committee members or a Membership proposal >>>>>> * Committee discussion and voting is held on the build@ list >>>>>> * The SYNHAK Secretary is responsible for maintaining the committee >>>>>> membership >>>>>> roster >>>>>> * The roster and any other commitee records are made public to The >>>>>> Membership >>>>>> * Only Active Members in Good Standing are permitted to be a >>>>>> committee member >>>>>> * Committee members may resign at any time, only in writing to the >>>>>> committee >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > After a decision has been made, print out a few copies to work from >>>>>> and >>>>>> > start moving stuff into the designated areas. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > The members will take it from there, knowing that a final floorplan >>>>>> exists. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > If this doesn't sound like a workable solution, then just keep on >>>>>> bickering >>>>>> > and squabbling about where to put things or who gets his way about >>>>>> this or >>>>>> > that. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Of course, the opening day celebration might have to be moved to >>>>>> August 1st >>>>>> > if you keep up the noise level and refuse to cooperate with each >>>>>> other. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Reminds me of 4th grade recess out on the parking lot... >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Torrie Fischer >>>>>> <tdfisc...@hackerbots.net>wrote: >>>>>> > > On Thursday, February 06, 2014 01:41:59 Craig Bergdorf wrote: >>>>>> > > > What if the EE lab and general meeting area were connected >>>>>> again in an >>>>>> > > > L? Having the meeting area being the entire width we could fit >>>>>> the 21 >>>>>> > > > people we had at this weeks meeting. Also with a shrunken >>>>>> machine shop >>>>>> > > > from the first post to the floor drain, a clear shot to >>>>>> load/unload from >>>>>> > > > the garage door including the basement & 4x8 sheets to the >>>>>> machine room. >>>>>> > > > The right side of the back 40 is left out, a good classroom and >>>>>> > > > something >>>>>> > > > else could spaciously fit in there. I'm just trying to get 21 >>>>>> unpacked. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > 2 >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > > weeks, 2 days till the soft launch. >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > http://calculais.com/syn/2/5.1.pdf >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > Replying to indicate that I have given up on caring about >>>>>> floorplans since >>>>>> > > any >>>>>> > > such discussion inevitably ends up pissing me off when I get told >>>>>> how >>>>>> > > wrong my >>>>>> > > ideas are without any real logical argument. >>>>>> > > _______________________________________________ >>>>>> > > Discuss mailing list >>>>>> > > Discuss@synhak.org >>>>>> > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Discuss mailing list >>>>>> Discuss@synhak.org >>>>>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Discuss mailing list >>>>> Discuss@synhak.org >>>>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Discuss mailing list >>>> Discuss@synhak.org >>>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@synhak.org >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@synhak.org > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >
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