I'll happily draw it up as it's being discussed. I am also busy with SparkAK this weekend, what about tonight at 8? If not, then how about Monday?
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Craig Bergdorf <mm1...@gmail.com> wrote: > Right here for #5 > On Feb 6, 2014 2:58 PM, "Philip P. Patnode" <ppatn...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> So, who is going to be #5? >> >> Torrie @ 1324 >> >> Becca @ 1407 >> >> Justin @ 1408 >> >> Devin @ 1440 >> >> #5 @ ? >> >> Good to see that some of the members are interested and motivated to get >> the new floorplan finalized. >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:40 PM, degerov...@yahoo.com < >> degerov...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> I volunteer myself for the committee. Can we meet tomorrow at 7pm at the >>> space? >>> >>> Devin. >>> >>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on >>> Android<http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> * From: * Becca Salchak <blsalc...@yahoo.com>; >>> * To: * SYN/HAK discussion list <discuss@synhak.org>; >>> * Subject: * Re: [SH-Discuss] another zoning proposal >>> * Sent: * Thu, Feb 6, 2014 7:07:38 PM >>> >>> Id like to volunteer myself for the committee >>> On Feb 6, 2014 1:24 PM, "Torrie Fischer" <tdfisc...@hackerbots.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Thursday, February 06, 2014 12:31:45 Philip P. Patnode wrote: >>>> > Torrie is doing what she needs to do in the face of the continuing >>>> > bickering, deal making, personal agendas, ego-driven land grabs, and >>>> the >>>> > subtle obstructionism shown by some members over the floorplan. >>>> > >>>> > In the face of complete chaos and a looming deadline, form a >>>> committee. >>>> > >>>> > Yes, I am serious. >>>> > >>>> > Following the philosophy of action as a "do'ocracy", some motivated >>>> members >>>> > should assemble to discuss the floorplan and make a final decision. >>>> > >>>> > Five people, with sharp pencils and blank paper, can sketch out a >>>> > compromise floorplan in under an hour. Add another half hour for >>>> coffee >>>> > and revisions. >>>> >>>> This is an excellent idea. I think this could also be a wonderful >>>> experiment >>>> in an improved governance process for the space. Consensus is starting >>>> to fall >>>> apart. >>>> >>>> There was recently a large thread on noisebridge-discuss along the very >>>> same >>>> lines. I will look at their discussion and see what happened. >>>> >>>> I'm wholly in favor of such a committee producing a floorplan with this >>>> limited set of rules: >>>> >>>> * The floorplan is binding on The Community until March 2nd at 00:00 >>>> * No significant modifications may be done to the floorplan after the >>>> floorplan is approved without majority approval from the committee >>>> members >>>> * Any committee member may declare a modification to be significant >>>> such that >>>> it is required to be approved by the committee >>>> * The floorplan shall not include anything that cannot be uninstalled, >>>> moved, >>>> disassembled, or otherwise modified over a two day weekend after March >>>> 3rd >>>> without unaminous approval from the committee members >>>> * The committee is dissolved on March 2nd at 00:00 >>>> * Additions to the committee shall not change without majority approval >>>> from >>>> the committee members or a Membership proposal >>>> * Committee discussion and voting is held on the build@ list >>>> * The SYNHAK Secretary is responsible for maintaining the committee >>>> membership >>>> roster >>>> * The roster and any other commitee records are made public to The >>>> Membership >>>> * Only Active Members in Good Standing are permitted to be a committee >>>> member >>>> * Committee members may resign at any time, only in writing to the >>>> committee >>>> >>>> > >>>> > After a decision has been made, print out a few copies to work from >>>> and >>>> > start moving stuff into the designated areas. >>>> > >>>> > The members will take it from there, knowing that a final floorplan >>>> exists. >>>> > >>>> > If this doesn't sound like a workable solution, then just keep on >>>> bickering >>>> > and squabbling about where to put things or who gets his way about >>>> this or >>>> > that. >>>> > >>>> > Of course, the opening day celebration might have to be moved to >>>> August 1st >>>> > if you keep up the noise level and refuse to cooperate with each >>>> other. >>>> > >>>> > Reminds me of 4th grade recess out on the parking lot... >>>> > >>>> > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Torrie Fischer >>>> <tdfisc...@hackerbots.net>wrote: >>>> > > On Thursday, February 06, 2014 01:41:59 Craig Bergdorf wrote: >>>> > > > What if the EE lab and general meeting area were connected again >>>> in an >>>> > > > L? Having the meeting area being the entire width we could fit >>>> the 21 >>>> > > > people we had at this weeks meeting. Also with a shrunken >>>> machine shop >>>> > > > from the first post to the floor drain, a clear shot to >>>> load/unload from >>>> > > > the garage door including the basement & 4x8 sheets to the >>>> machine room. >>>> > > > The right side of the back 40 is left out, a good classroom and >>>> > > > something >>>> > > > else could spaciously fit in there. I'm just trying to get 21 >>>> unpacked. >>>> > > >>>> > > 2 >>>> > > >>>> > > > weeks, 2 days till the soft launch. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > http://calculais.com/syn/2/5.1.pdf >>>> > > >>>> > > Replying to indicate that I have given up on caring about >>>> floorplans since >>>> > > any >>>> > > such discussion inevitably ends up pissing me off when I get told >>>> how >>>> > > wrong my >>>> > > ideas are without any real logical argument. >>>> > > _______________________________________________ >>>> > > Discuss mailing list >>>> > > Discuss@synhak.org >>>> > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Discuss mailing list >>>> Discuss@synhak.org >>>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss@synhak.org >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@synhak.org >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> >
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