This week is bad for me next week is good.
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Craig Bergdorf <mm1...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'll happily draw it up as it's being discussed. I am also busy with > SparkAK this weekend, what about tonight at 8? If not, then how about > Monday? > > > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Craig Bergdorf <mm1...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Right here for #5 >> On Feb 6, 2014 2:58 PM, "Philip P. Patnode" <ppatn...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> So, who is going to be #5? >>> >>> Torrie @ 1324 >>> >>> Becca @ 1407 >>> >>> Justin @ 1408 >>> >>> Devin @ 1440 >>> >>> #5 @ ? >>> >>> Good to see that some of the members are interested and motivated to get >>> the new floorplan finalized. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:40 PM, degerov...@yahoo.com < >>> degerov...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I volunteer myself for the committee. Can we meet tomorrow at 7pm at >>>> the space? >>>> >>>> Devin. >>>> >>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on >>>> Android<http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> * From: * Becca Salchak <blsalc...@yahoo.com>; >>>> * To: * SYN/HAK discussion list <discuss@synhak.org>; >>>> * Subject: * Re: [SH-Discuss] another zoning proposal >>>> * Sent: * Thu, Feb 6, 2014 7:07:38 PM >>>> >>>> Id like to volunteer myself for the committee >>>> On Feb 6, 2014 1:24 PM, "Torrie Fischer" <tdfisc...@hackerbots.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thursday, February 06, 2014 12:31:45 Philip P. Patnode wrote: >>>>> > Torrie is doing what she needs to do in the face of the continuing >>>>> > bickering, deal making, personal agendas, ego-driven land grabs, and >>>>> the >>>>> > subtle obstructionism shown by some members over the floorplan. >>>>> > >>>>> > In the face of complete chaos and a looming deadline, form a >>>>> committee. >>>>> > >>>>> > Yes, I am serious. >>>>> > >>>>> > Following the philosophy of action as a "do'ocracy", some motivated >>>>> members >>>>> > should assemble to discuss the floorplan and make a final decision. >>>>> > >>>>> > Five people, with sharp pencils and blank paper, can sketch out a >>>>> > compromise floorplan in under an hour. Add another half hour for >>>>> coffee >>>>> > and revisions. >>>>> >>>>> This is an excellent idea. I think this could also be a wonderful >>>>> experiment >>>>> in an improved governance process for the space. Consensus is starting >>>>> to fall >>>>> apart. >>>>> >>>>> There was recently a large thread on noisebridge-discuss along the >>>>> very same >>>>> lines. I will look at their discussion and see what happened. >>>>> >>>>> I'm wholly in favor of such a committee producing a floorplan with this >>>>> limited set of rules: >>>>> >>>>> * The floorplan is binding on The Community until March 2nd at 00:00 >>>>> * No significant modifications may be done to the floorplan after the >>>>> floorplan is approved without majority approval from the committee >>>>> members >>>>> * Any committee member may declare a modification to be significant >>>>> such that >>>>> it is required to be approved by the committee >>>>> * The floorplan shall not include anything that cannot be uninstalled, >>>>> moved, >>>>> disassembled, or otherwise modified over a two day weekend after March >>>>> 3rd >>>>> without unaminous approval from the committee members >>>>> * The committee is dissolved on March 2nd at 00:00 >>>>> * Additions to the committee shall not change without majority >>>>> approval from >>>>> the committee members or a Membership proposal >>>>> * Committee discussion and voting is held on the build@ list >>>>> * The SYNHAK Secretary is responsible for maintaining the committee >>>>> membership >>>>> roster >>>>> * The roster and any other commitee records are made public to The >>>>> Membership >>>>> * Only Active Members in Good Standing are permitted to be a committee >>>>> member >>>>> * Committee members may resign at any time, only in writing to the >>>>> committee >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> > After a decision has been made, print out a few copies to work from >>>>> and >>>>> > start moving stuff into the designated areas. >>>>> > >>>>> > The members will take it from there, knowing that a final floorplan >>>>> exists. >>>>> > >>>>> > If this doesn't sound like a workable solution, then just keep on >>>>> bickering >>>>> > and squabbling about where to put things or who gets his way about >>>>> this or >>>>> > that. >>>>> > >>>>> > Of course, the opening day celebration might have to be moved to >>>>> August 1st >>>>> > if you keep up the noise level and refuse to cooperate with each >>>>> other. >>>>> > >>>>> > Reminds me of 4th grade recess out on the parking lot... >>>>> > >>>>> > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Torrie Fischer >>>>> <tdfisc...@hackerbots.net>wrote: >>>>> > > On Thursday, February 06, 2014 01:41:59 Craig Bergdorf wrote: >>>>> > > > What if the EE lab and general meeting area were connected again >>>>> in an >>>>> > > > L? Having the meeting area being the entire width we could fit >>>>> the 21 >>>>> > > > people we had at this weeks meeting. Also with a shrunken >>>>> machine shop >>>>> > > > from the first post to the floor drain, a clear shot to >>>>> load/unload from >>>>> > > > the garage door including the basement & 4x8 sheets to the >>>>> machine room. >>>>> > > > The right side of the back 40 is left out, a good classroom and >>>>> > > > something >>>>> > > > else could spaciously fit in there. I'm just trying to get 21 >>>>> unpacked. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > 2 >>>>> > > >>>>> > > > weeks, 2 days till the soft launch. >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > http://calculais.com/syn/2/5.1.pdf >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Replying to indicate that I have given up on caring about >>>>> floorplans since >>>>> > > any >>>>> > > such discussion inevitably ends up pissing me off when I get told >>>>> how >>>>> > > wrong my >>>>> > > ideas are without any real logical argument. >>>>> > > _______________________________________________ >>>>> > > Discuss mailing list >>>>> > > Discuss@synhak.org >>>>> > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Discuss mailing list >>>>> Discuss@synhak.org >>>>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Discuss mailing list >>>> Discuss@synhak.org >>>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss@synhak.org >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@synhak.org > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >
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