On 14/02/16 22:05, sme at ortecin GmbH wrote: >> >> Each of those have sub tasks and pros and cons. Do we build a new server >> manager just on CentOS 7 ? Do we build it on CentOS 6, and then migrate >> it all to CentOS 7 ? Which framework do we use ? Etc etc etc.
> Hmmm .... that is the part that turned me off, the fighting about the > framework. Assuming the functional spec and a high level design of the > server manager are agreed to and signed off, do you really care which > framework is being used? As a developer I would preferrably use > something I already know to make maximum use of my time instead of being > forced to use something I've got no experience with. This is the > 'atractive' part I was referring to in my last posting, tell the > developer what you need and leave the implementation details to him/her. The issue is that the server-manager uses an old framework called FormMagick that is both difficult/awkward to use and a barrier to a lot of people writing contribs. If you have tried to build a panel then you may know. If you have not then I really suggest you give it a try to find out for yourself why we are all agreed it needs changing. There are probably others here who will give you a lot of good technical reasons why it should be changed. I for one can just about write a CLI contrib, but trying to write a panel loses me completely. So I just haven't bothered. It is an issue that has cropped up consistently, and is a barrier to new developers working with SME. It is something we have long wanted to address. We want people to be able to develop contribs and other code using a modern and easy to understand framework, and in a language that they are familiar with. And we all agree it looks dated and should be replaced. Unfortunately, eye candy sells..... We would like something responsive too. Mojolicious is one route using perl Cockpit is a completely different route Are there other systems out there ? The fact that the server-manager could do with replacing is not really in any question between the main developers. What to replace it with is the subject of the debate. B. Rgds John _______________________________________________ Discussion about project organisation and overall direction To unsubscribe, e-mail discussion-unsubscr...@lists.contribs.org Searchable archive at https://lists.contribs.org/mailman/public/discussion/
