Hi Steven, Yes April 2nd.
I agree I think education is very important way to get people interested. HOT has been in the midst of a "University Roadshow" within Indonesia. We will have introduced 11 universities to OpenStreetMap as well as given students a chance to sign-up for workshops. Thanks, -Kate On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Steven Johnson <sejohns...@gmail.com> wrote: > Kate & lists, > > If you mean, Wed, 2 April then yes, count me in. > > As fodder for the discussion, here's an article about a college trying to > make CS studies more inclusive: http://tinyurl.com/ltl8yhr There are some > transferable lessons for the OSM community. > > I'm cross-posting this reply to teachosm list because I've come to the > conclusion that the route to diversity is goes directly through education > and outreach. If we train middle- and high-schoolers to get involved mapping > at a younger age, we stand a better chance at broadening the base of > contributors. But we need an effort that scales and can be pitched toward a > younger audience. > > Perhaps we can talk about this on the Wed call and tee up a follow-up > birds-of-a-feather session the upcoming State o' the Map conference. > > SEJ > > -- SEJ > -- twitter: @geomantic > -- skype: sejohnson8 > > There are two types of people in the world. Those that can extrapolate from > incomplete data. > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:57 AM, Kate Chapman <k...@maploser.com> wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> How about we schedule a meeting next week to discuss some possible >> steps? If I suggest Wednesday at 14:00 UTC does that work for most >> people that are interested? >> >> I'll volunteer HOT's mumble server(1) for the discuss unless someone >> wants to volunteer a conference call line (which works >> internationally). >> >> Thanks, >> >> -Kate >> >> (1) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mumble >> >> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Kate Chapman <k...@maploser.com> wrote: >> > Hi All, >> > >> > I just wanted to share this article on editathons aimed at closing the >> > gender gap in Wikipedia(1). >> > >> > Another item we could think about for mapping parties is to have a >> > diversity statement. Groups could simply link to it on their meet-up >> > page or whatever software they are using to organize. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > -Kate >> > (1) >> > http://blogs.kcrw.com/whichwayla/2014/02/edit-a-thons-aim-to-erase-wikipedias-gender-gap >> > >> > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Randal Hale >> > <rjh...@northrivergeographic.com> wrote: >> >> I think the biggest problem in general is attracting new people - be >> >> they >> >> black white male female or green. >> >> >> >> OSM is a niche thing - It doesn't matter what is done with new editors >> >> and >> >> new ideas - your typical user isn't going to muck around in the wiki >> >> (which >> >> is a mess) OR get on a talk list and hope to get one of the people that >> >> don't consider OSM their own personal playground. >> >> >> >> If you want to learn OSM on the WIKI one of the first things covered it >> >> loading GPX data - once again new users don't care about that (maybe >> >> when >> >> they get more advanced - yes). The LearnOSM site is good - BUT - which >> >> is >> >> definitive? The wiki OR the LearnOSM site (or maybe they both have >> >> their own >> >> merits. >> >> >> >> I always try to look at it from a "win" perspective - how does OSM win? >> >> For >> >> me it's a win if I can convince an elderly person to map their >> >> neighborhood >> >> or a kid to map their elementary school or something they enjoy. I have >> >> tried these very things - but knowing I would be the portal into OSM - >> >> there >> >> isn't a good spot for them to get that type of support and >> >> understanding and >> >> get questions answered. I spent a wonderful amount of time in the US >> >> Virgin >> >> Islands working this previous summer - and that was always something I >> >> wondered about "How can I convince a resident to show what they "love" >> >> on >> >> OSM - be it their neighborhood or school or church?" The second >> >> question >> >> became if I do this - "who will they end up talking to if they get >> >> active". >> >> The second question always worried me. >> >> >> >> We've had conversations on this end about the "community map" aspect to >> >> OSM >> >> - is it really just that? We've been beating a dead horse on other talk >> >> lists on "OSM Community" - and I think that is something that needs >> >> definition - who do you want in OSM? Is it everyone? Is it only a >> >> select >> >> group? What is the current community? How is that defined? >> >> >> >> >> >> Randy >> >> >> >> ----------------- >> >> Randal Hale, GISP >> >> North River Geographic Systems, Inc >> >> http://www.northrivergeographic.com >> >> 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com >> >> rjh...@northrivergeographic.com >> >> twitter:rjhale >> >> http://about.me/rjhale >> >> >> >> On 02/13/2014 08:29 AM, Alex Barth wrote: >> >> >> >> My top two priorities for increasing diversity, especially at events, >> >> are: >> >> >> >> - Appeal to newcomers. We're never going to create diversity with the >> >> people >> >> who are already part of OSM, so I try to make sure I'm speaking to the >> >> people who I haven't met yet rather than the crowd who's in the know. >> >> - I make a personal effort to reach out to women to get involved. >> >> Diversity >> >> is not just more women, I know, but this is actionable. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Fozy 81 <foz...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hi All, >> >>> >> >>> Yes, I'd be interested to attend a meeting on Diversity. >> >>> >> >>> And on mapping parties/meetups. The wiki could be updated to include a >> >>> few >> >>> tips on how to be inclusive. >> >>> >> >>> So in my experience - first I started in a pub on a week night. And to >> >>> be >> >>> honest that is an easy way to start (no room hire, convenient, beer). >> >>> And >> >>> nothing wrong with that . But have made the effort to mix it up with >> >>> different venues and times to possibly attract different groups (which >> >>> has >> >>> worked to some extent). >> >>> >> >>> So I guess, the main thing is to run an event - it's a fun thing to do >> >>> and >> >>> will gather the existing community and may attract new people. But >> >>> IMHO if >> >>> you are planning on running a series of events - try to mix the >> >>> venues, >> >>> times and groups you are interacting with. And try to find different >> >>> contacts/ways to broadcast your event (social media, email, notices >> >>> etc). >> >>> >> >>> + 1 all the advice on atmosphere/welcoming/questions etc >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Tim >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> diversity-talk mailing list >> >>> diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org >> >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> diversity-talk mailing list >> >> diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> diversity-talk mailing list >> >> diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> diversity-talk mailing list >> diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk > > _______________________________________________ diversity-talk mailing list diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk