Hi Steven,

Yes April 2nd.

I agree I think education is very important way to get people
interested. HOT has been in the midst of a "University Roadshow"
within Indonesia. We will have introduced 11 universities to
OpenStreetMap as well as given students a chance to sign-up for
workshops.

Thanks,

-Kate

On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Steven Johnson <sejohns...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kate & lists,
>
> If you mean, Wed, 2 April then yes, count me in.
>
> As fodder for the discussion, here's an article about a college trying to
> make CS studies more inclusive: http://tinyurl.com/ltl8yhr There are some
> transferable lessons for the OSM community.
>
> I'm cross-posting this reply to teachosm list because I've come to the
> conclusion that the route to diversity is goes directly through education
> and outreach. If we train middle- and high-schoolers to get involved mapping
> at a younger age, we stand a better chance at broadening the base of
> contributors. But we need an effort that scales and can be pitched toward a
> younger audience.
>
> Perhaps we can talk about this on the Wed call and tee up a follow-up
> birds-of-a-feather session the upcoming State o' the Map conference.
>
> SEJ
>
> -- SEJ
> -- twitter: @geomantic
> -- skype: sejohnson8
>
> There are two types of people in the world. Those that can extrapolate from
> incomplete data.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:57 AM, Kate Chapman <k...@maploser.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> How about we schedule a meeting next week to discuss some possible
>> steps? If I suggest Wednesday at 14:00 UTC does that work for most
>> people that are interested?
>>
>> I'll volunteer HOT's mumble server(1) for the discuss unless someone
>> wants to volunteer a conference call line (which works
>> internationally).
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -Kate
>>
>> (1) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mumble
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Kate Chapman <k...@maploser.com> wrote:
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > I just wanted to share this article on editathons aimed at closing the
>> > gender gap in Wikipedia(1).
>> >
>> > Another item we could think about for mapping parties is to have a
>> > diversity statement. Groups could simply link to it on their meet-up
>> > page or whatever software they are using to organize.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > -Kate
>> > (1)
>> > http://blogs.kcrw.com/whichwayla/2014/02/edit-a-thons-aim-to-erase-wikipedias-gender-gap
>> >
>> > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Randal Hale
>> > <rjh...@northrivergeographic.com> wrote:
>> >> I think the biggest problem in general is attracting new people - be
>> >> they
>> >> black white male female or green.
>> >>
>> >> OSM is a niche thing - It doesn't matter what is done with new editors
>> >> and
>> >> new ideas - your typical user isn't going to muck around in the wiki
>> >> (which
>> >> is a mess) OR get on a talk list and hope to get one of the people that
>> >> don't consider OSM their own personal playground.
>> >>
>> >> If you want to learn OSM on the WIKI one of the first things covered it
>> >> loading GPX data - once again new users don't care about that (maybe
>> >> when
>> >> they get more advanced - yes). The LearnOSM site is good - BUT - which
>> >> is
>> >> definitive? The wiki OR the LearnOSM site (or maybe they both have
>> >> their own
>> >> merits.
>> >>
>> >> I always try to look at it from a "win" perspective - how does OSM win?
>> >> For
>> >> me it's a win if I can convince an elderly  person to map their
>> >> neighborhood
>> >> or a kid to map their elementary school or something they enjoy. I have
>> >> tried these very things - but knowing I would be the portal into OSM -
>> >> there
>> >> isn't a good spot for them to get that type of support and
>> >> understanding and
>> >> get questions answered. I spent a wonderful amount of time in the US
>> >> Virgin
>> >> Islands working this previous summer - and that was always something I
>> >> wondered about "How can I convince a resident to show what they "love"
>> >> on
>> >> OSM - be it their neighborhood or school or church?" The second
>> >> question
>> >> became if I do this - "who will they end up talking to if they get
>> >> active".
>> >> The second question always worried me.
>> >>
>> >> We've had conversations on this end about the "community map" aspect to
>> >> OSM
>> >> - is it really just that? We've been beating a dead horse on other talk
>> >> lists on "OSM Community" - and I think that is something that needs
>> >> definition - who do you want in OSM? Is it everyone? Is it only a
>> >> select
>> >> group? What is the current community? How is that defined?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Randy
>> >>
>> >> -----------------
>> >> Randal Hale, GISP
>> >> North River Geographic Systems, Inc
>> >> http://www.northrivergeographic.com
>> >> 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com
>> >> rjh...@northrivergeographic.com
>> >> twitter:rjhale
>> >> http://about.me/rjhale
>> >>
>> >> On 02/13/2014 08:29 AM, Alex Barth wrote:
>> >>
>> >> My top two priorities for increasing diversity, especially at events,
>> >> are:
>> >>
>> >> - Appeal to newcomers. We're never going to create diversity with the
>> >> people
>> >> who are already part of OSM, so I try to make sure I'm speaking to the
>> >> people who I haven't met yet rather than the crowd who's in the know.
>> >> - I make a personal effort to reach out to women to get involved.
>> >> Diversity
>> >> is not just more women, I know, but this is actionable.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Fozy 81 <foz...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi All,
>> >>>
>> >>> Yes, I'd be interested to attend a meeting on Diversity.
>> >>>
>> >>> And on mapping parties/meetups. The wiki could be updated to include a
>> >>> few
>> >>> tips on how to be inclusive.
>> >>>
>> >>> So in my experience - first I started in a pub on a week night. And to
>> >>> be
>> >>> honest that is an easy way to start (no room hire, convenient, beer).
>> >>> And
>> >>> nothing wrong with that . But have made the effort to mix it up with
>> >>> different venues and times to possibly attract different groups (which
>> >>> has
>> >>> worked to some extent).
>> >>>
>> >>> So I guess, the main thing is to run an event - it's a fun thing to do
>> >>> and
>> >>> will gather the existing community and may attract new people. But
>> >>> IMHO if
>> >>> you are planning on running a series of events - try to mix the
>> >>> venues,
>> >>> times and groups you are interacting with. And try to find different
>> >>> contacts/ways to broadcast your event (social media, email, notices
>> >>> etc).
>> >>>
>> >>> + 1 all the advice on atmosphere/welcoming/questions etc
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Tim
>> >>>
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