Gah, I hate to miss this but I now have a mtg on client site at 1400UTC/10am EDT. In general, I have the most flexibility on Fridays, but I recognize there are a lot of schedules to accommodate.
-- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype: sejohnson8 There are two types of people in the world. Those that can extrapolate from incomplete data. On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 8:22 PM, alyssa wright <alyssapwri...@gmail.com>wrote: > OK! I won't be able to make tomorrow but look forward to any insight and > updates. > > Alyssa. > > > On Mar 31, 2014, at 7:37 PM, Kate Chapman <k...@maploser.com> wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > Sorry for the delay, I should have responded to say March 31st is a > > holiday in Indonesia and I wasn't going to make it. Let's stick to the > > time tomorrow and then we can see about scheduling regular meetings. I > > think having a meeting once a month or every couple weeks could be > > beneficial. > > > > Thanks, > > > > -Kate > > > >> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:27 PM, alyssa wright < > alyssapwri...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I won't be able to make April 2nd. Is it possible to speak on Monday, > March > >> 31st? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Alyssa. > >> > >> > >>> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 5:38 AM, Kate Chapman <k...@maploser.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Steven, > >>> > >>> Yes April 2nd. > >>> > >>> I agree I think education is very important way to get people > >>> interested. HOT has been in the midst of a "University Roadshow" > >>> within Indonesia. We will have introduced 11 universities to > >>> OpenStreetMap as well as given students a chance to sign-up for > >>> workshops. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> -Kate > >>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Steven Johnson <sejohns...@gmail.com > > > >>> wrote: > >>>> Kate & lists, > >>>> > >>>> If you mean, Wed, 2 April then yes, count me in. > >>>> > >>>> As fodder for the discussion, here's an article about a college trying > >>>> to > >>>> make CS studies more inclusive: http://tinyurl.com/ltl8yhr There are > >>>> some > >>>> transferable lessons for the OSM community. > >>>> > >>>> I'm cross-posting this reply to teachosm list because I've come to the > >>>> conclusion that the route to diversity is goes directly through > >>>> education > >>>> and outreach. If we train middle- and high-schoolers to get involved > >>>> mapping > >>>> at a younger age, we stand a better chance at broadening the base of > >>>> contributors. But we need an effort that scales and can be pitched > >>>> toward a > >>>> younger audience. > >>>> > >>>> Perhaps we can talk about this on the Wed call and tee up a follow-up > >>>> birds-of-a-feather session the upcoming State o' the Map conference. > >>>> > >>>> SEJ > >>>> > >>>> -- SEJ > >>>> -- twitter: @geomantic > >>>> -- skype: sejohnson8 > >>>> > >>>> There are two types of people in the world. Those that can extrapolate > >>>> from > >>>> incomplete data. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:57 AM, Kate Chapman <k...@maploser.com> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi All, > >>>>> > >>>>> How about we schedule a meeting next week to discuss some possible > >>>>> steps? If I suggest Wednesday at 14:00 UTC does that work for most > >>>>> people that are interested? > >>>>> > >>>>> I'll volunteer HOT's mumble server(1) for the discuss unless someone > >>>>> wants to volunteer a conference call line (which works > >>>>> internationally). > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> > >>>>> -Kate > >>>>> > >>>>> (1) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mumble > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Kate Chapman <k...@maploser.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> Hi All, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I just wanted to share this article on editathons aimed at closing > >>>>>> the > >>>>>> gender gap in Wikipedia(1). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Another item we could think about for mapping parties is to have a > >>>>>> diversity statement. Groups could simply link to it on their meet-up > >>>>>> page or whatever software they are using to organize. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -Kate > >>>>>> (1) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > http://blogs.kcrw.com/whichwayla/2014/02/edit-a-thons-aim-to-erase-wikipedias-gender-gap > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Randal Hale > >>>>>> <rjh...@northrivergeographic.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> I think the biggest problem in general is attracting new people - > be > >>>>>>> they > >>>>>>> black white male female or green. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> OSM is a niche thing - It doesn't matter what is done with new > >>>>>>> editors > >>>>>>> and > >>>>>>> new ideas - your typical user isn't going to muck around in the > wiki > >>>>>>> (which > >>>>>>> is a mess) OR get on a talk list and hope to get one of the people > >>>>>>> that > >>>>>>> don't consider OSM their own personal playground. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> If you want to learn OSM on the WIKI one of the first things > covered > >>>>>>> it > >>>>>>> loading GPX data - once again new users don't care about that > (maybe > >>>>>>> when > >>>>>>> they get more advanced - yes). The LearnOSM site is good - BUT - > >>>>>>> which > >>>>>>> is > >>>>>>> definitive? The wiki OR the LearnOSM site (or maybe they both have > >>>>>>> their own > >>>>>>> merits. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I always try to look at it from a "win" perspective - how does OSM > >>>>>>> win? > >>>>>>> For > >>>>>>> me it's a win if I can convince an elderly person to map their > >>>>>>> neighborhood > >>>>>>> or a kid to map their elementary school or something they enjoy. I > >>>>>>> have > >>>>>>> tried these very things - but knowing I would be the portal into > OSM > >>>>>>> - > >>>>>>> there > >>>>>>> isn't a good spot for them to get that type of support and > >>>>>>> understanding and > >>>>>>> get questions answered. I spent a wonderful amount of time in the > US > >>>>>>> Virgin > >>>>>>> Islands working this previous summer - and that was always > something > >>>>>>> I > >>>>>>> wondered about "How can I convince a resident to show what they > >>>>>>> "love" > >>>>>>> on > >>>>>>> OSM - be it their neighborhood or school or church?" The second > >>>>>>> question > >>>>>>> became if I do this - "who will they end up talking to if they get > >>>>>>> active". > >>>>>>> The second question always worried me. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> We've had conversations on this end about the "community map" > aspect > >>>>>>> to > >>>>>>> OSM > >>>>>>> - is it really just that? We've been beating a dead horse on other > >>>>>>> talk > >>>>>>> lists on "OSM Community" - and I think that is something that needs > >>>>>>> definition - who do you want in OSM? Is it everyone? Is it only a > >>>>>>> select > >>>>>>> group? What is the current community? How is that defined? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Randy > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ----------------- > >>>>>>> Randal Hale, GISP > >>>>>>> North River Geographic Systems, Inc > >>>>>>> http://www.northrivergeographic.com > >>>>>>> 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com > >>>>>>> rjh...@northrivergeographic.com > >>>>>>> twitter:rjhale > >>>>>>> http://about.me/rjhale > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 02/13/2014 08:29 AM, Alex Barth wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> My top two priorities for increasing diversity, especially at > >>>>>>> events, > >>>>>>> are: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> - Appeal to newcomers. We're never going to create diversity with > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>> people > >>>>>>> who are already part of OSM, so I try to make sure I'm speaking to > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>> people who I haven't met yet rather than the crowd who's in the > >>>>>>> know. > >>>>>>> - I make a personal effort to reach out to women to get involved. > >>>>>>> Diversity > >>>>>>> is not just more women, I know, but this is actionable. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Fozy 81 <foz...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi All, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Yes, I'd be interested to attend a meeting on Diversity. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> And on mapping parties/meetups. The wiki could be updated to > >>>>>>>> include a > >>>>>>>> few > >>>>>>>> tips on how to be inclusive. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> So in my experience - first I started in a pub on a week night. > And > >>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>> honest that is an easy way to start (no room hire, convenient, > >>>>>>>> beer). > >>>>>>>> And > >>>>>>>> nothing wrong with that . But have made the effort to mix it up > >>>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>> different venues and times to possibly attract different groups > >>>>>>>> (which > >>>>>>>> has > >>>>>>>> worked to some extent). > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> So I guess, the main thing is to run an event - it's a fun thing > to > >>>>>>>> do > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> will gather the existing community and may attract new people. But > >>>>>>>> IMHO if > >>>>>>>> you are planning on running a series of events - try to mix the > >>>>>>>> venues, > >>>>>>>> times and groups you are interacting with. And try to find > >>>>>>>> different > >>>>>>>> contacts/ways to broadcast your event (social media, email, > notices > >>>>>>>> etc). > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> + 1 all the advice on atmosphere/welcoming/questions etc > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Tim > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> diversity-talk mailing list > >>>>>>>> diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org > >>>>>>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> diversity-talk mailing list > >>>>>>> diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org > >>>>>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> diversity-talk mailing list > >>>>>>> diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org > >>>>>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> diversity-talk mailing list > >>>>> diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org > >>>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> diversity-talk mailing list > >>> diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org > >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk > >> > >> >
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