Hi All, Sorry for the delay, I should have responded to say March 31st is a holiday in Indonesia and I wasn't going to make it. Let's stick to the time tomorrow and then we can see about scheduling regular meetings. I think having a meeting once a month or every couple weeks could be beneficial.
Thanks, -Kate On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:27 PM, alyssa wright <alyssapwri...@gmail.com> wrote: > I won't be able to make April 2nd. Is it possible to speak on Monday, March > 31st? > > Thanks, > Alyssa. > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 5:38 AM, Kate Chapman <k...@maploser.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Steven, >> >> Yes April 2nd. >> >> I agree I think education is very important way to get people >> interested. HOT has been in the midst of a "University Roadshow" >> within Indonesia. We will have introduced 11 universities to >> OpenStreetMap as well as given students a chance to sign-up for >> workshops. >> >> Thanks, >> >> -Kate >> >> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Steven Johnson <sejohns...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > Kate & lists, >> > >> > If you mean, Wed, 2 April then yes, count me in. >> > >> > As fodder for the discussion, here's an article about a college trying >> > to >> > make CS studies more inclusive: http://tinyurl.com/ltl8yhr There are >> > some >> > transferable lessons for the OSM community. >> > >> > I'm cross-posting this reply to teachosm list because I've come to the >> > conclusion that the route to diversity is goes directly through >> > education >> > and outreach. If we train middle- and high-schoolers to get involved >> > mapping >> > at a younger age, we stand a better chance at broadening the base of >> > contributors. But we need an effort that scales and can be pitched >> > toward a >> > younger audience. >> > >> > Perhaps we can talk about this on the Wed call and tee up a follow-up >> > birds-of-a-feather session the upcoming State o' the Map conference. >> > >> > SEJ >> > >> > -- SEJ >> > -- twitter: @geomantic >> > -- skype: sejohnson8 >> > >> > There are two types of people in the world. Those that can extrapolate >> > from >> > incomplete data. >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:57 AM, Kate Chapman <k...@maploser.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> How about we schedule a meeting next week to discuss some possible >> >> steps? If I suggest Wednesday at 14:00 UTC does that work for most >> >> people that are interested? >> >> >> >> I'll volunteer HOT's mumble server(1) for the discuss unless someone >> >> wants to volunteer a conference call line (which works >> >> internationally). >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> -Kate >> >> >> >> (1) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mumble >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Kate Chapman <k...@maploser.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> > Hi All, >> >> > >> >> > I just wanted to share this article on editathons aimed at closing >> >> > the >> >> > gender gap in Wikipedia(1). >> >> > >> >> > Another item we could think about for mapping parties is to have a >> >> > diversity statement. Groups could simply link to it on their meet-up >> >> > page or whatever software they are using to organize. >> >> > >> >> > Thanks, >> >> > >> >> > -Kate >> >> > (1) >> >> > >> >> > http://blogs.kcrw.com/whichwayla/2014/02/edit-a-thons-aim-to-erase-wikipedias-gender-gap >> >> > >> >> > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Randal Hale >> >> > <rjh...@northrivergeographic.com> wrote: >> >> >> I think the biggest problem in general is attracting new people - be >> >> >> they >> >> >> black white male female or green. >> >> >> >> >> >> OSM is a niche thing - It doesn't matter what is done with new >> >> >> editors >> >> >> and >> >> >> new ideas - your typical user isn't going to muck around in the wiki >> >> >> (which >> >> >> is a mess) OR get on a talk list and hope to get one of the people >> >> >> that >> >> >> don't consider OSM their own personal playground. >> >> >> >> >> >> If you want to learn OSM on the WIKI one of the first things covered >> >> >> it >> >> >> loading GPX data - once again new users don't care about that (maybe >> >> >> when >> >> >> they get more advanced - yes). The LearnOSM site is good - BUT - >> >> >> which >> >> >> is >> >> >> definitive? The wiki OR the LearnOSM site (or maybe they both have >> >> >> their own >> >> >> merits. >> >> >> >> >> >> I always try to look at it from a "win" perspective - how does OSM >> >> >> win? >> >> >> For >> >> >> me it's a win if I can convince an elderly person to map their >> >> >> neighborhood >> >> >> or a kid to map their elementary school or something they enjoy. I >> >> >> have >> >> >> tried these very things - but knowing I would be the portal into OSM >> >> >> - >> >> >> there >> >> >> isn't a good spot for them to get that type of support and >> >> >> understanding and >> >> >> get questions answered. I spent a wonderful amount of time in the US >> >> >> Virgin >> >> >> Islands working this previous summer - and that was always something >> >> >> I >> >> >> wondered about "How can I convince a resident to show what they >> >> >> "love" >> >> >> on >> >> >> OSM - be it their neighborhood or school or church?" The second >> >> >> question >> >> >> became if I do this - "who will they end up talking to if they get >> >> >> active". >> >> >> The second question always worried me. >> >> >> >> >> >> We've had conversations on this end about the "community map" aspect >> >> >> to >> >> >> OSM >> >> >> - is it really just that? We've been beating a dead horse on other >> >> >> talk >> >> >> lists on "OSM Community" - and I think that is something that needs >> >> >> definition - who do you want in OSM? Is it everyone? Is it only a >> >> >> select >> >> >> group? What is the current community? How is that defined? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Randy >> >> >> >> >> >> ----------------- >> >> >> Randal Hale, GISP >> >> >> North River Geographic Systems, Inc >> >> >> http://www.northrivergeographic.com >> >> >> 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com >> >> >> rjh...@northrivergeographic.com >> >> >> twitter:rjhale >> >> >> http://about.me/rjhale >> >> >> >> >> >> On 02/13/2014 08:29 AM, Alex Barth wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> My top two priorities for increasing diversity, especially at >> >> >> events, >> >> >> are: >> >> >> >> >> >> - Appeal to newcomers. We're never going to create diversity with >> >> >> the >> >> >> people >> >> >> who are already part of OSM, so I try to make sure I'm speaking to >> >> >> the >> >> >> people who I haven't met yet rather than the crowd who's in the >> >> >> know. >> >> >> - I make a personal effort to reach out to women to get involved. >> >> >> Diversity >> >> >> is not just more women, I know, but this is actionable. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Fozy 81 <foz...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Hi All, >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Yes, I'd be interested to attend a meeting on Diversity. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> And on mapping parties/meetups. The wiki could be updated to >> >> >>> include a >> >> >>> few >> >> >>> tips on how to be inclusive. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> So in my experience - first I started in a pub on a week night. And >> >> >>> to >> >> >>> be >> >> >>> honest that is an easy way to start (no room hire, convenient, >> >> >>> beer). >> >> >>> And >> >> >>> nothing wrong with that . But have made the effort to mix it up >> >> >>> with >> >> >>> different venues and times to possibly attract different groups >> >> >>> (which >> >> >>> has >> >> >>> worked to some extent). >> >> >>> >> >> >>> So I guess, the main thing is to run an event - it's a fun thing to >> >> >>> do >> >> >>> and >> >> >>> will gather the existing community and may attract new people. But >> >> >>> IMHO if >> >> >>> you are planning on running a series of events - try to mix the >> >> >>> venues, >> >> >>> times and groups you are interacting with. And try to find >> >> >>> different >> >> >>> contacts/ways to broadcast your event (social media, email, notices >> >> >>> etc). >> >> >>> >> >> >>> + 1 all the advice on atmosphere/welcoming/questions etc >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Tim >> >> >>> >> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >>> diversity-talk mailing list >> >> >>> diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org >> >> >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> diversity-talk mailing list >> >> >> diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org >> >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> diversity-talk mailing list >> >> >> diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org >> >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> diversity-talk mailing list >> >> diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> diversity-talk mailing list >> diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk > > _______________________________________________ diversity-talk mailing list diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk
