My 2c; The technical board has always done a stellar job of ensuring that good ideas end up in the code base, and unfinished, unsupported, incomplete, young, or non-reviewed code stays outside. The quality of the core framework, and the ease of having 3rd party code exist as Extensions, Plug-ins and Related Libraries means that the technical board can be -1 on a request to add code to the core framework without negatively impacting that code's future potential. It might be a blow to the author(s) ego, but saying "No" isn't going to make the code any harder for end users to find, install, review, debug, and it gives the code more time to be improved. In the future, if the code demonstrates stability, performance and user support, maybe it gets another chance to be merged into core. Django's quality is, in part, a direct result of saying "No" at the right times.
No personal disrespect intended the the authors of the MSSQL backend package (haven't seen it, haven't used it, probably never will given the quality of other available backends) but after spending nearly 3 decades developing with OSS DBs and MSSQL, at times teaching design and DBA, and having to support MS server and DB systems, Microsoft's code teams (in my opinion) haven't shown a commitment to high quality, peer reviewed code. Microsoft's marketing, telemetry and legal teams however have shown a very strong commitment to put their own interests above those of the users. This may well be a reflection of (again, my opinion) the 'profit first, image second, quality where possible (security if we get time or negative PR requires it)' theme that permeates MS. Code must stand on its own merits, and no code decision should be influenced by the reputation of the author, either negatively or positively, but having said that, if the technical board were to decide to include the MSSQL backend in core, there would have to be a commitment to review every single commit from that point on, specifically looking for the ways MS will put pressure on the codebase to bend towards the MS goals, not the Django goals. Where the goals are the same, that is fine. I remain skeptical that the goals are the same. Finally, I congratulate Warren for getting the code this far. D On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 at 05:30, Warren Chu <vwar...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi All, > > There is increasing interest within Microsoft to have stronger ties > between Microsoft SQL Server and Django. As you may be aware, Microsoft and > their connectivity teams have been managing the 3rd party backend for > "mssql-django" for over a year now at: > https://github.com/microsoft/mssql-django > > Inclusion of SQL Server as a 1st party backend is viewed as a potential > big milestone in that regard. > > @adamjohnson mentioned a year ago that ideally the community would like to > see multiple years of ongoing Microsoft support before considering merging > as a 1st party backend. > > We'd love to hear thoughts and feedback around the possibility of moving > forward with a DEP enhancement proposal, with a commitment from Microsoft > to providing continued dedicated support for the 1st party backend through > the Django project itself (rather than the 3rd party repo). > > Cheers, > Team Microsoft > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/0c6ca059-d50e-4c84-bef6-ab0742fc4fa9n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/0c6ca059-d50e-4c84-bef6-ab0742fc4fa9n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- -- ====================== Daryl Egarr, Director Kawhai Consultants Ltd Cell 021 521 353 da...@kawhai.net ====================== -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/CALzH9qvTRkK_Q%3DFMkhAhxQaUXgd%3D%3DCjW467%2BisZJyxKrHeR5Bw%40mail.gmail.com.
