> Then there is also the question on how to ensure continued commitment
from Microsoft -- what happens when Microsoft (or the current PM/PO or
whatever) looses interest?

IMO. This is the biggest one.

What I'd expect to see here is MS taking up a long-term corporate
sponsorship of the DSF, demonstrating a commit, and giving the DSF
resources to ensure the backend was covered.
Every time that's been mentioned though it's like crickets — zero response.
Certainly zero positive response.
(I appreciate that's got to come from **someone's** budget, but no more
than engineering time.)

Kind Regards,

Carlton

On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 at 12:13, Florian Apolloner <f.apollo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Waren,
>
> On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 6:30:06 PM UTC+2 vwa...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> We'd love to hear thoughts and feedback around the possibility of moving
>> forward with a DEP enhancement proposal, with a commitment from Microsoft
>> to providing continued dedicated support for the 1st party backend through
>> the Django project itself (rather than the 3rd party repo).
>>
>
> As pointed out by Adam I do not think the backend is ready for core. At
> the minimum it would need to support most of what Django offers. Then there
> is also the question on how to ensure continued commitment from Microsoft
> -- what happens when Microsoft (or the current PM/PO or whatever) looses
> interest? The backend would be in Django then and we can't easily kick it
> out.
>
> Given the backend APIs and the recent enhancements by Tim to allow
> backends to define which tests they can't pass etc I do not see any strong
> technical argument for including a new backend in core at all. Aside from a
> selling argument for Microsoft that Django includes the backend in core,
> what do we gain? It is not like one usually uses Django without installing
> any 3rd party dependencies, so installing one more certainly won't hurt.
>
> Cheers,
> Florian
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