I have reviewed recent posts to this mailing list:   Submissions have come from 
39 different people on 34 unique domains.   Of these, 11 have munged headers, 
indicating that they use an enforceable DMARC policy.   This is a much higher 
percentage than your general survey.

I wonder if this is typical  - are mailing list subscribers more likely to be 
on DMARC-enforcing domains than the general population?

Do the mailing list operators have data about what percentage of their 
subscribers (or percentage of unique domains) have DMARC policy enforcement in 
place?

DF

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From: Neil Anuskiewicz <n...@marmot-tech.com>
Sent: 8/1/20 9:27 PM
To: Luis E. Muñoz <dmarc-ietf.org=40lem.cl...@dmarc.ietf.org>
Cc: dmarc@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] non-mailing list use case for differing header domains
I looked at ~3.5 million domain names and here's some of what I found. This 
data might be useful to the discussion. As for me, I'm lurking and learning.

Anyway, I looked at ~3.5 million domain names and here's some of what I found:

FTSE DMARC Adoption
 DMARC Policy    10/18/2019
 No record       56%
 none    34%
 quarantine      1%
 reject  9%

F500 DMARC Adoption

 DMARC Policy    10/18/2019
 no record       49%
 none    37%
 quarantine      4%
 reject  9%

ASX DMARC Adoption

 DMARC Policy    10/18/2019
 no record       59%
 none    33%
 quarantine      1%
 reject  7%

On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 12:57 PM Neil Anuskiewicz <n...@marmot-tech.com> wrote:

I looked at ~3.5 million domain names and here's some of what I found.. This 
wasn't a random sample but perhaps this data will be useful in this discussion:

FTSE DMARC Adoption
         Snapshot (10/18)

 No record       56%
 none    34%
 quarantine      1%
 reject  9%

F500 DMARC Adoption
         Snapshot (10/18)

 no record       49%
 none    37%
 quarantine      4%
 reject  9%

ASX DMARC Adoption
         Snapshot (10/18)

 no record       59%
 none    33%
 quarantine      1%
 reject  7%

Thanks.

Neil
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 6:02 PM Luis E. Muñoz 
<dmarc-ietf.org=40lem.cl...@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

On 30 Jul 2020, at 15:52, Jim Fenton wrote:

There's an underlying assumption here that I don't agree with: that
DMARC adoption equates to the publication of a p=reject DMARC policy,
and that everyone (or at least all Fortune 500 companies) should be
doing that. p=reject should only be used when the usage patterns of the
domain support that policy. I'm more inclined to say that 85% of Fortune
500 companies are savvy enough not to publish a policy that doesn't fit
their usage patterns.

I am currently observing ~215.5 million domain names. Out of those, ~64
million have a seemingly valid SPF record and ~113 million with at least one MX 
record.

This is a current breakdown of the (valid) DMARC records I am observing over 
the general domain population above. This amounts to an adoption rate of ~1.7%.
p        count
         none    2715614
 quarantine      238584
 reject  726045

It is interesting that roughly half of those are not taking advantage of the 
reporting. Here are the counts for those with neither rua= nor ruf= in the 
DMARC records:
p        count
         none    1092990
 quarantine      107767
 reject  307614

I do not have a definitive list of Fortune 500 domain names, but I compile a 
rolling list of domain names with most traffic using multiple sources, which 
currently holds ~1.8 million unique domain names.

The breakdown of DMARC records from that high-traffic population is shown 
below, and it amounts to about 6.3%.
p        count
         none    79367
 quarantine      18094
 reject  15875

For completeness, here is the same report, counting only those that have 
neither rua= nor ruf= in the DMARC record. The ratio of silent p=quarantine and 
p=reject seems around half as in the case of the general population.
p        count
         none    32561
 quarantine      4534
 reject  2760

It would seem that those high-traffic domains are ~5x more likely to adopt 
DMARC. To me, these numbers speaks of thoughtful and deliberate deployment that 
outpaces the general domain name registrations.

That said, I cannot claim whether the list of high-traffic domains is actually 
a good proxy for the domain portfolio of the Fortune 500 companies.

Best regards

-lem

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