Thank you, John. I agree that it's an edge case and not worth addressing 
separately. 

Eric Chudow
DoD Cybersecurity Mitigations

-----Original Message-----
From: John Levine <jo...@taugh.com> 
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 11:04 PM
To: dmarc@ietf.org
Cc: Chudow, Eric B CIV NSA DSAW (USA) <eric.b.chudow....@mail.mil>
Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Second WGLC for draft-ietf-dmarc-psd: Definition of NP

In article 
<553d43c8d961c14bb27c614ac48fc03128116...@umechpa7d.easf.csd.disa.mil> you 
write:
>Section 2.7. defines a non-existent domain as "a domain for which there 
>is an NXDOMAIN or NODATA response for A, AAAA, and MX records.  This is 
>a broader definition than that in NXDOMAIN [RFC8020]." This should be 
>sufficient for determining that the domain is not intended to be used and 
>therefore could have a more stringent policy applied.
>
>The idea of looking for a "mail-enabled domain" based on if an "MX record 
>exists or SPF policy exists" is interesting.
>Although there may be domains that send email but not receive email and so may 
>not have an MX record.

These days I think you will find that if the domains in your bounce address and 
your From: headers don't have an MX or A record, very few recipients will 
accept your mail. This seems like an edge case. In practice I find that the 
domains caught by the Org domain or I suppose PSD have A records but no mail 
server because they're actually web hosts rather than mail hosts.

We have the Null MX to indicate that a domain receives no mail and SPF plain 
-all to indicate that it sends no mail so I hope we don't try to reinvent these 
particular wheels.

R's,
John


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