Doesn't sieve happen during delivery, after the message has been accepted? Is so, I don't think it's a useful comparison to make.
The lack of bounce/rejection messages results in messages that vanish and undermines the reliability of the email ecosystem. I agree that silent discard between MTAs is bad and we should not encourage it. Scott K On July 7, 2023 7:02:58 PM UTC, Barry Leiba <barryle...@computer.org> wrote: >It's not a question of the bounces being annoying: it's a question of >the bounces harming mailing list operation by causing unsubscribes. >Given the choice of "breaking 5321" (which I don't buy, as Sieve >already has a silent discard option, for example) and "breaking normal >mailing list operation", I'll take the former to prevent the latter >every time. > >Barry > >On Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at 11:48 AM John Levine <jo...@taugh.com> wrote: >> >> It appears that Barry Leiba <barryle...@computer.org> said: >> >I, too, prefer MUST to SHOULD there, but it was clear to me that we >> >will not reach rough consensus on MUST, but that we can reach rough >> >consensus on SHOULD. >> > >> >I do like your suggestion of silent discard rather than bounce, and I >> >would want to see that change made -- perhaps with a note that >> >aggregate reports will still include information about those discards. >> >> Silent discard breaks RFC 5321 and some people feel very strongly >> about it. For reasons I am sure I don't need to remind you of, don't >> go there. >> >> If you get so many bounces that you find it annoying, that is nature's >> way of reminding you that you should do something about it. Personally, >> I use sorting rules to put the bounces in a place where they don't >> clutter up my main inbox. >> >> R's, >> John > >_______________________________________________ >dmarc mailing list >dmarc@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc _______________________________________________ dmarc mailing list dmarc@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc
