> On Jul 7, 2023, at 8:48 AM, John Levine <jo...@taugh.com> wrote:
> 
> It appears that Barry Leiba  <barryle...@computer.org> said:
>> I, too, prefer MUST to SHOULD there, but it was clear to me that we
>> will not reach rough consensus on MUST, but that we can reach rough
>> consensus on SHOULD.
>> 
>> I do like your suggestion of silent discard rather than bounce, and I
>> would want to see that change made -- perhaps with a note that
>> aggregate reports will still include information about those discards.
> 
> Silent discard breaks RFC 5321 and some people feel very strongly
> about it. For reasons I am sure I don't need to remind you of, don't
> go there.
> 
> If you get so many bounces that you find it annoying, that is nature's
> way of reminding you that you should do something about it.  Personally,
> I use sorting rules to put the bounces in a place where they don't
> clutter up my main inbox.

Without bounces the sender is in the dark. This is a tech ecosystem. Every such 
community I’ve been involved with in any way has had the “we are all in this 
together.” I’ve never experienced more generosity than from fellow techies. My 
second techie job I just hinted I was struggling with something and 15 minutes 
later he at my office door pointing in the direction of solutions at like 7 pm 
on a work day. No all nighter needed. He stayed to watch me take his guidance 
then we called it a day.

I help others whenever I possibly can as that’s the ethos engrained in me by 
mentors such as him. He didn’t just teach me techie stuff. He taught me the 
ethos. That ethos must continue.

We help each other in all kinds of ways including bouncing email to help the 
admin do the job. We wouldn’t be able to sleep if we made someone’s life harder 
because of a fuck up. That’s who we are.
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