to me the ISP has the right to do this legally, much as a retailer has the legal right to be rude to a customer.
there is no law against stupidity. I think you SHOULD make sure that every notice that you send to this ISP be from a "safe" IP and, importantly, lets their customers know about their policies (hopefully in an understandable way) and that they should be aware of the problems that could create. just my thoughts. Regards Doctor PC - Brian O'Donnell wrote: >>>What is the ethical (or legal) ramifications of myISP doing something > > like > >>>that? Can they really punish the recipient of the spam? I have been >>>involved >>>in a discussion on SpamCop's forum today and the general concensus over >>>there is that because myISP is paying for the infrastructure, they, and >>>they >>>alone, call the shots as to what a user (paying customer) may receive. > > We > >>>are not talking about being punished for sending, just receiving. >>> >>>Any opinions? >> >>Normally its specific IP's that are blocked and usually for a set period > > of > >>time to see if the problem persists. >>That is how most blacklists work. >> >>We use some fairlu beign blacklisting and I have never had a customer >>complain or even notice. >>I think its if you use one of the radical blacklists that you will get >>collaterol damage or false positives. > > > Well, we started getting complaints from several customers that we couldn't > find any answer for (about not getting any forwarded emails), but it was > when we sent out our renewal reminders and invoices that we found the > bounce: > > <snip> > This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. > > A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its > recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > host mail.xxxx.xxx [123.456.78.9]: 591 Your host [987.654.32.1] is on > the Banned Host list. Send your questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > </snip> > > When I contacted the company (first at [EMAIL PROTECTED], which > doesn't exist), then by telephone, their tech went on SpamCop's forum and > posted about this "gutsy spammer" who had "some balls calling us" and went > on a rant about how we sent (one piece of) spam which originated at another > completely unrelated IP address, and that'll teach [me] to promote spam.... > etc. etc. blah blah blah... > > Incidentally, the company never returned my phone call. This post was made > shortly after I left my message and I found it a week later by googling our > blocked IP address. > > As of last count three different renewal notices have bounced back to us > because they are serviced by this ISP. > > Brian > > _______________________________________________ > domains-gen mailing list > [email protected] > http://discuss.tucows.com/mailman/listinfo/domains-gen _______________________________________________ domains-gen mailing list [email protected] http://discuss.tucows.com/mailman/listinfo/domains-gen
