In that case, Elliot, register us as one reseller who wants to opt out. 
Again: we do *not* want you to change the name servers on any of our 
customers' domains, under any circumstances, period.  We don't want an 
auction service, we don't want a 404 page, we don't want a "contact your 
reseller" page, or anything else you've got planned.  Let us make that 
choice, and leave our domain names alone.  How much more plainly can I put 
it?

You don't have to go to ISPCON to talk to your resellers.  There are 
several right here on this list who are unhappy, want to opt out, or have 
expressed ethical concerns.  If you want to do something 
reseller-friendly, start listening to us again.  There hasn't been much of 
that lately.

-- 
Alex Bulan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Technical Operations Manager
Korax Inc.

On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, elliot noss wrote:

> just a quick note here. myself and the two other senior folks who would
> respond here are at ispcon and james is at the traffic conference so
> the limitation on a detailed response is simply logistics not will. my
> goal is (family willing) to get it out over the weekend.
>
> a few quick notes (real quick). the two days notice is wrong, we agree,
> we think something like two weeks would have been more appropriate. I
> could give explanation (and may to some extent in the longer response)
> but want to be clear it is just that, explanation not excuse. the
> notice should have been longer.
>
> second, my longer response will provide more details. the whole picture
> is necessary to understand this. what we will provide will be, we
> think, reseller-friendly and registrant-friendly. we know it will be
> WAY more so than what anyone else will be doing, but we do not like to
> judge ourselves by those standards. being at ispcon has allowed me to
> discuss this with a great number of resellers. we had a reseller event
> here tuesday night that was well attended and I talked about this in
> some detail. I have also had a number of conversations at the booth
> about it. I am not aware of one reseller who was unhappy, wanted to opt
> out or expressed any ethical concerns. in fact I would describe the
> response as positive and appreciative. the more they understood and the
> more detail they had, the better they felt.
>
> sorry, but got to run. that's all for now.
>
> Regards
> Elliot Noss
>
>
> On Oct 19, 2005, at 5:02 PM, Dave Warren wrote:
>
>> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> Seconded.  We do *not* want you to change the name servers on any of
>>> our
>>> customers' domains.  You are not entitled to make ad-hoc changes to
>>> people's domain names as you see fit.  We believe this will cause
>>> problems
>>> that will reflect badly on our operation from our customers'
>>> perspective.
>>>
>>> We're very displeased that this news was dumped on us with 2 days'
>>> notice
>>> and no prior discussion.  Please tell us how we can opt out of it.
>>
>> And as usual these days, no response from Tucows.  Admittedly it hasn't
>> been all that long since your post, but to put it in perspective, it's
>> what, 50% of the notice resellers were given.
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