Hi Al,OGD
Thanks for the confirmation it is in there.
NO, don't wreck your book to do it.. not that important.
Thanks to other Drakers(?) I now have the HA-1 manual and
that should always let me fix it (not that it has ever needed
anything since 1967 anyway).
Buying radio books on your honeymoon? Wow, you are as
sick as me, I remember buying a new vernier drive for my
old SBE SB-34 when we went past the factory on my
honeymoon.
73 and Happy New Year,
Gary
WB6
----- Original Message -----
From: Al Parker <anc...@ec.rr.com>
To: Gary Winblad <garywinb...@comcast.net>
Cc: k4...@mindspring.com, drakelist@zerobeat.net
Sent: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 01:30:01 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Slightly Off-Topic: W9TO KEYER
Hi Gary,
I have that handbook, it's on pg 597, 'A "9TO" Electronic Key'
My book is in pristine condx, I bought it on my honeymoon in 1963, and
it's been well cred for since. I can probably flatten it to make scans
without hurting it, but it might be out of focus near the center.
73,
Al, W8UT
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www.hammarlund.info
"There is nothing -- absolutely nothing -- half so much
worth doing as simply messing about in boats"
Ratty, to Mole
On 1/2/2012 8:02 PM, Gary Winblad wrote:
> THANK YOU everyone for all the info. It has been a great trip down
> memory lane.
>
> I been googlin. Garey, I saw several references that you are right, it
> was never
> published. Wow, I KNEW I didn't build it from a Hallicrafters manual..
>
> I finally found a reference that must be correct.. it WAS the W6SAI
> Radio Handbook,
> but it was the 1962 issue. I pulled the covers off mine and yes, it has
> the same
> tube lineup as the HA-1 (including BOTH a 0B2 and an 0A2!!).
> I remember I got the part layout from the article, it uses a unique
> "dual in line"
> terminal board to hold the resistors and capacitors. All the kid could
> scrounge
> was two similar but shorter boards, so that is what is in there. And as
> someone
> mentioned, the sidetone is pretty nasty. I was able to cobble in a TONE and
> VOLUME control that sort of works..
>
> So does anyone have a 1962 version of the W6SAI Handbook or can find a
> link??
>
> 73,
> Gary
> WB6OGD
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Garey Barrell
> To: Gary Winblad
> Cc: drakelist@zerobeat.net
> Sent: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:59:47 -0000 (UTC)
> Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Slightly Off-Topic: EICO 717 KEYER
>
> Gary -
>
> The 'TO Keyer' was never published!! I have a copy somewhere of the
> original schematic made by Jim
> Ricks, W9TO, that he sent out to interested individuals. Apparently he
> was already in talks with
> Bill Halligan to market it, as the schematic was marked 'do not
> distribute' or something to that effect.
>
> I also have a '59 Handbook here (I think that's the brown one) and will
> see if I can find it. I
> believe it's on the internet as well. Here is one location.
>
>
>
> A quick scan of the INDEX does not show an electronic keyer of any kind.
> May have been a later edition.
>
> My first keyer was built about 1959 from an old (then!) QST article. Had
> a 2D21 Thyratron, a 12AT7
> divider, and an 0A2 regulator. It worked 'ok' but was extremely
> sensitive to line voltage changes.
> Unfortunately my Mom got a new electric skillet for Christmas that same
> year, and while I'm trying
> to NCS a net upstairs she's fixing dinner in the kitchen. Every time
> that @%$# skillet would turn
> ON (or OFF) the line voltage would shift enough that I had to readjust
> the thyratron for the correct
> speed. Made things interesting! :-)
>
> 73, Garey - K4OAH
> Glen Allen, VA
>
> Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line
> and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
>
>
>
> Gary Winblad wrote:
> > To go even more Off Topic...
> >
> > YES Curt, you will like it a lot! W9TO was the designer, hence the name.
> >
> > As a 15 year old kid in 1967 I built my version in our high school
> electronics
> > shop class. It has never missed a DIT since! As a confirmed Drake lover
> > even back then, I folded up a Drake style chassis/box so it matched my
> > R-4A. As a kid, and as my first attempt at using a sheet metal brake and
> > sheer, it came out a little bit big, but it still matched Drake
> pretty well if I don't
> > say so myself...
> >
> > My request:
> > I built it from a design in (I am pretty sure) in a 1959 W6SAI Radio
> Handbook
> > than my dad (SK) had. As copy machines hadn't been invented yet(!?) I of
> > course don't have a copy. DOES ANYONE have this manual and could make
> > me a copy of the article so I at least have a schematic in case it
> ever breaks???
> > Or even just confirm that there is indeed a W9TO keyer in there.
> > I have googled and found that there was a pdf copy on line at one
> time but it
> > seems to have gone away..
> >
> > TIA and HAPPY NEW YEAR to all,
> > 73,
> > Gary
> > WB6OGD
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Steve Berg
> > To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
> > Sent: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:51:59 -0000 (UTC)
> > Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Slightly Off-Topic: EICO 717 KEYER
> >
> > Curt, you will like that TO keyer a lot. I have had one for more than
> > 25 years. It is a very good idea to replace all of the capacitors in it
> > as the electrolytics are shot by now, and the black beauties are not in
> > the best of shape, either. Before I replaced the black beauties, the
> > speed of the keyer would vary quite a bit with changes in humidity.
> > Mine has some quirks with the power supply and VR tubes, but it still
> > works very well. I will eventually get those sorted out, too.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Steve WA9JML
> >
> > On 1/2/2012 7:15 AM, Eddy Swynar wrote:
> > >
> > > On 2012-01-01, at 7:50 PM, Curt Nixon wrote:
> > >
> > >> Just picked up a Hallicrafters TO keyer for the vintage desk also.
> > >> Same keyer basically.
> > >
> > > */Hi Curt,/*
> > >
> > > I think that the one major difference betwixt the /EICO/& the
> > > /Hallicrafters TO/keyer is that very same "...weak link" in the chain
> > > that affected mine here, i.e. the /TO/used (I believe) a sealed
> > > mercury-wetted keying relay, whereas the /EICO/went with that
> > > reed-relay-in-a-field-coil route to achieve its external keying...
> > >
> > > I say weak link as no offence to the /EICO/designers, but rather, as a
> > > potential source for trouble that may well require the owner's
> attention
> > > at some point in its future...trouble is, if said owner is not all that
> > > familiar with the whys & wherefores of reed relays / field coils (my
> > > right hand is raised!), then one can through a /LOT/of vexing gyrations
> > > & travails in the trouble-shooting process that are simply not
> > > necessary...! *: >)*
> > >
> > > */~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ/*
> > >
>
>
>
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