Hi Richard wow, thanks again!
This is indeed the solution. I will gladly document this .. should I put it in the Wiki? thank you!!!!!!!! Maike On 10-Jan-08, at 12:32 PM, Richard Rodgers wrote: > Hi Maike: > > I have not tested this, but if you consult the documentation at: > > http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Web_Integration_Guide > > it suggests that if you add a query parameter 'jurisdiction' > (the doc calls them 'URL variables') to the Creative Commons URL > requested in the submit/creative_commons.jsp, you can force the > Canadian licenses to appear. If this works, document it for the > benefit of others. > > Thanks, > > Richard > > Quoting Maike Dulk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Hi Richard, >> >> gosh, that is indeed entirely new, not only to me but also to the >> librarians who have used DSpace for a longer time now as well. This >> is >> indeed confusing. >> >> So thank you very much for clarifying this! >> >> The only thing that I would like to know is how I can change the >> "target" of that iFrame, which is now the 3.0 generic license, to the >> CC license that we want to use, i.e. the Canadian 2.5 version .. >> and I >> cannot find any setting / file where that is set. >> >> Do you know that? >> >> cheers >> maike >> >> >> >> On 9-Jan-08, at 6:23 AM, Richard Rodgers wrote: >> >>> Hi Maike: >>> >>> A few explanations to help unravel the enigma: >>> First, you should understand that there are two different licenses >>> involved >>> here, not a choice of one. The first - the deposit license - is >>> (roughly) >>> a licence that the depositor grants to the repository. It is not >>> optional, >>> and does not display to users in the item display. For many >>> institutions, >>> it is a legal requirement. It is a standard 'click-thru' license in >>> the >>> sense that the grantor can only accept or reject it (as you note). >>> The >>> license.default you mention contains this license text. >>> The second - CC license - is (roughly) a license >>> that an author grants to consumers of her work. It is entirely >>> optional >>> (as you note with the cc-enable property), and *does* prominently >>> display to >>> users in the item page. Here, the submitter *can* choose from a set >>> of licenses >>> that reflect the desire to control/share content. >>> >>> What is confusing is that they both appear in the submission work- >>> flow >>> (first CC, then deposit), and the the CC is a mini-workflow in >>> itself >>> consisting if steps in an Iframe. Many have lamented the 'brittle' >>> Iframe, but it was the only programmatic access we had when it was >>> first >>> offered. Now there are 'web'service' interfaces to CC that should >>> probably >>> be adopted (volunteers welcome!). >>> >>> Hope this helps, >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> Quoting Maike Dulk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> I noticed some really strange behaviour in our DSpace installation. >>>> >>>> It is the Creative Commons licensing. >>>> >>>> When the setting in dspace.cfg is set to true >>>> >>>> #### Creative Commons settings ###### >>>> # are Creative Commons licenses used in submission? >>>> webui.submit.enable-cc = true >>>> >>>> the Creative Commons section of the submission process has TWO >>>> separate steps. The first one is the one that has the iFrame that >>>> displays the Creative Commons webpage in it, and there are two >>>> choices >>>> that the submitter can set before accepting the license. >>>> After that, there is another step that asks another time whether >>>> the >>>> submitter wants to accept the Creative Commons license. This page >>>> is >>>> much simpler and has no choices, only two buttons - either "I Grant >>>> the License" or "I Do Not Grant the License" . >>>> >>>> The strange thing is that the first stage points to a version of >>>> the >>>> CC license that is NOT the one that we want to use, and that I have >>>> entered in the default.license config file. We want to use the >>>> Canadian 2.5 license, but it displays - AND attaches - the generic >>>> 3.0 >>>> CC license. >>>> That second stage does point to the Canadian 2.5 version license - >>>> but >>>> it is apparently discarded. >>>> >>>> The strangeness becomes more apparent when I do this: >>>> >>>> #### Creative Commons settings ###### >>>> # are Creative Commons licenses used in submission? >>>> webui.submit.enable-cc = false >>>> >>>> In that case, there is no longer the first step (the iFrame one) - >>>> but >>>> the second step (the one with the url to the Canadian version and >>>> the >>>> "I Grant the License" or "I Do Not Grant the License" buttons) >>>> STILL >>>> comes up. But submissions do not have the CC license attached .. >>>> which >>>> does make some sense, since it is disabled. >>>> >>>> >>>> So I'd really like to know: >>>> - what makes this second step appear even though the CC is disabled >>>> in >>>> dspace.cfg? >>>> - How can I turn it off? >>>> - where can I make the first CC license point to the right CC >>>> license >>>> version (Canadian 2.5) ? It is not in the default.license .. since >>>> that is set to the Canadian one. >>>> - if we could get the second step to work with the right CC version >>>> that would be even better, since it is much simpler than that >>>> brittle >>>> iFrame mechanism >>>> >>>> My gosh, this is *complex*. >>>> >>>> thanks in advance, >>>> maike >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> Maike Dulk - Programmer / Analyst >>>> McPherson Library, University of Victoria >>>> (t) 250-886-5709 / (e) [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> -- Harthon gerithach aeair vilui / I hope you will have kind seas >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. >>>> It's the best place to buy or sell services for >>>> just about anything Open Source. >>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> DSpace-tech mailing list >>>> DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. >> It's the best place to buy or sell services for >> just about anything Open Source. >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace >> _______________________________________________ >> DSpace-tech mailing list >> DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. 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