Hi all. I totally completely understand that there are people who do want to use these types of services just to talk about their lives. It's just that this discussion grew out of a post I wrote when (Kit, I think) of Inksome asked me about RP use cases. I can only discuss use cases that I understand with any kind of confidence.
In no way am I intending to discount other types of users. I am also not saying that anyone has to design anything specially for these use cases or that their needs should or must be considered above any others. On Fri, 8 Aug 2008, Tango the Mutt wrote: > Azalais Aranxta wrote: > > > > I know people who don't RP who have two or three journals > > (fandom/fic/icon, fandom/personal/fic) but I've never heard of > > anyone continually maintaining more than five journals (that > > aren't communities) who didn't want them set up differently. For > > instance, someone who has a personal journal separate from their > > fandom journal is likely to want much stricter privacy settings > > on the personal journal. > > Hi, I'm Tango. Excluding communities, I have 7 accounts: > > Mine, my weight-loss journal (which given the WTF metric would not be > needed on DQ), 2 story journals, My LJ Idol journal (also would not be > needed given WTF), my test journal for LJ Support, and 1 RP journal. Thanks for explaining that, I get it now. (I also didn't mean to inadvertently imply you don't exist because I'd never heard of your usage pattern before. Sorry about that. I *will* learn to talk proper someday. I hope.) The WTF metric is awesome. > In my opinion, FO settings, styles, comment settings, WTF, > should be journal-specific settings. Though The account holder > for the journals should have the option to make them all be the > same. And that's not what's been clear to me in discussion of all these features. If you have the *option* to make settings the same, then yes RPers and fandomers will use personas. But if they all have to be the same, probably not--for instance, I don't want only people I have friended commenting on my journal (although I do want to screen them) but I don't want anyone I haven't friended commenting on my RP journal, because my RP characters don't talk to people who don't exist in their worlds. > I'd also prefer that unless I've chosen to display it, there's > no way for a random user to determine that journalname1 and > journalname2 are part of accountname. Oh yes. Yes yes yes yes. There is so much potential for abuse there. If someone has a work related journal and a fandom related journal...trouble. If someone has a journal for talking about their personal relationships that they don't want the people they actually have those relationships with seeing...trouble. If someone who is on Fandom Wank's shit list has a personal journal...trouble. > >> This does bring up another question, though. When you get a > >> paid account, would it be for individual personas only, or > >> would it apply to an account (including all personas of that > >> account)? > > In my opinion, the benefits accrued from paying for DW should apply to > all the journals under an account name with a few creative caveats: > > - Say a Paid account gets 120 userpics, those are shared > amongst your journals for that account, as is your voice post > and scrapbook space. RPers probably wouldn't use personas if this was the case. I'm not discounting anyone else; I'm talking about the use cases I understand and the ones I think are also most likely to be a huge drain on servers, because they want lots and lots of userpics and they don't want to delete their stuff. (When I owned over 100 LJs that I actively used for RP, I paid for at least one every month, so I was socking $240 into LJ; but most of the people I knew who used the system as much as I did weren't doing that.) The average RPer doesn't have 2-7 journals; they may only be really active in 5-7, but they're not going to delete the ones they're not using any more or haven't found a place for yet; I haven't done any studies, but I think between 10 and 30 is more common and some have over 100. The system you're proposing is great for the 2-10 journal user. But if I only had 2-10 journals I wouldn't need a master/slave account system to manage them. The people I know who want this system have many more journals than that. I am aware that these use cases are rare. But if any part of the reason for creating master/slave or persona accounts is to stop people from owning large numbers of *multiple accounts* and keep them down to one account, one vote, per person/email/address, the very people who are most likely to own 100+ accounts are the ones who are least likely to take advantage of the feature if this is the case. If the intention is merely to make managing small numbers of multiple accounts (for any reason that someone might have multiple accounts) more convenient--then this will work fine, but the people who have 30+ accounts on LJ or IJ or GJ will still have 5+ accounts when they move to DW, and experienced RPers will have them registered to different email addresses that all forward to a single email address they actually check; everyone who wasn't already doing that started doing it after Strikethrough and Boldthrough, when we found out how much you could lose if you had all your journals on one email. Azalais **************************************************************** Azalais Aranxta (~malfoy) ataniell93 on LiveJournal and Vox http://groups.yahoo.com/group/malfoymadness "I know the true world, and you know I do. 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