Silicon Shaman writes:
>Ok... having come in late to this particular discussion, can I reiterate and
>see if I understand this...?
>
>We have WTF lists. a Watched, Trust and Friends trio instead of just an
>F-List.
>anyone of which can either be public, private or filtered [just the list
>that is] so that other people may or may not know if the list exists and
>who's on it or not...
>and posts to any of the three can be public, private or filtered as well...
>
>So that's what, three possible states per list..and three or more tick boxes
>per post per list which can be any combination of three different states....
>not even counting multiple filters...
It's not that complicated.
your watch list is a list of who you're watching. You can't post to
it; it's not an ACL, but instead a feed. I don't know whether it
hidable or not (I'm inclined for yes -- you can already do so offline,
after all, by just looking at individual journals instead, but I could
see an alternative opinion or five). You can make subfilters here
that let you look at only a subset of your watched journals, and those
filters can be public (other people can filter your friends list by
and view only your comic feeds, or only your gaming friends, or
whatnot) or private. People also want killfiles here, which I
support. What I'd -love- to see here is either whole-journal or
filter-level constraints that let you limit to or exclude specific
tags -- so you can watch at loudfriend-meme-quiz rather than the
entire journal, or gamingfriend+theory to view only posts tagged
theory (in your journal or in a specific filter). This would, among
other things, remove one of the big uses of trust lists, but that's
cool; it's better to use it this way anyway. I also think it would be
useful to be able to express a filter in terms of other filters --
this filter contains everyone -not- in my comics or close filters, etc.
Your trust list is a list of who you're letting view your stuff. If
someone is on it, they can view locked (but not filtered) posts. If
you subfilter, posts to a filter can only be viewed by people on that
filter, but look as if they're just locked to anyone who can see
them. We're discussing whether it would be possible/desirable to let
you have a public/private-ish setting here (ie, set up a filter as
"exposed" so people on it -do- get to see the membership and what
filter its going to, or be able to make the question of whether a post
is filtered at all visible if you want to (it isn't now; locked is
locked).
Your trust list never controls what you read.
Your watch list never controls what someone else can read.
I'm not sure what your friends list does; my guess is that it's
specifically a set of the people you want to advertise as "friends" on
your journal. If so, I could see subfiltering this, but only for
public purposes; to be able to publically list your gaming friends,
your business contacts, etc. Regardless, it doesn't, AFAIK, have a
technical purpose.
As long as I'm throwing random brainstorms into here, I've long wished
for a way to, for my own purposes, write down someone's real name (or
other info about them) when I friend them. (or in this context,
watch/trust them). Sure, I could have a private forward-dated post
that included info on everyone, but wouldn't it be better to integrate
it so I could roll over my real world friends and see who they are
when it wasn't exactly obvious?
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