Ron: All good information. You and Osten have a lot more info that I have been privy to. This all makes it obviious that it is not a clear cut situation on how to get properly licensed in Yemen first place, and then get the necessary documentaion to get DXCC certification. If it is difficult for a DXpedition to deal with, imagine how difficult it is for the ARRL to establish a clear cut, stable set of rules to follow in order to get operating licenses and permission, and then the necessary documentation to get DXCC cert. In cases like this, I think the DXCC rules situation has to have a fair amount of flexibility in its interpretation. Lets hope the G4HCL and other upcoming 7O ops are a bit more successful in this regard. That is why we are talking about this to help understand and aid the process.
John Owens - N7TK -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Ron Notarius W3WN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Well, I don't know about 7O7AA or 7O8AA (and yes, Osten, I do recall your > email from back in March, obviously you have more information at your > disposal than I do). Things may have changed after those licenses were > issued, and especially after the two Yemens merged back into one country. > Or the Aden Branch may have had the authority at one time and does not > anymore. Or they overstepped their authority the first time or two and was > approval from the Saana may have come retroactively, something they no > longer wish to do. I could continue to speculate, but we may never know. > > As far as the "documentation problem" with 7O1YGF goes, remember two things: > > (1) The 7O1YGF team advertised quite often prior to the DXpedition that > they had a license. Or at least that they had permission. This was > re-iterated during and after the DXpedition... but the elusive "license" or > "permission to operate" never appears to have either (a) been put on paper, > and/or (b) been seen in the light of day by anyone outside of the > DXpedition. > > (2) The 7O1YGF team has never submitted ANY documentation to the DXCC desk > to have the operation approved for DXCC credit. Just some photos that were > given to N7NG at Friedrichshafen. > > Let us all also bear in mind that this has happened before. There are more > than a few operations by EU ops from Central America that have not been > approved due to lack of documentation. It does make one wonder... > > And yes, I recall the story about Vlad too. Funny that they would tell him > no license had ever been issued except the one to the Sultan of Kuwait, yet > we know of licenses (or at least "permission to operate" -- same thing but > technically not quite? Are they hair splitting?) that have been issued, > such as 7O/OH2YY. So one wonders what the real story is... again, we may > never know. > > 73 > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Osten B > Magnusson > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 1:41 PM > To: Zack Widup; dx-chat@njdxa.org > Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] 7O > > > > As far as I know the "no good" license for 7O1A was issued > by the Aden Branch of The Yemen Telecom, and the head > office in the capital Saana said that the Aden Branch was not > authorized to issue licenses. BUT also the 7O8AA and 7O7AA > operations took place from Aden (according to the information > I have). Maybe also 7O1AA. Can the "documentation problem" > for 7O1YGF be as simple as they also had authorization only > from the Aden Branch? > > Vlad, UA4WHX, was in Saana in early 2005 but did not operate > as he could not get a license - he told us that the ministry said > that only one license had been issued, for The Sultan of Kuwait, > but he never used it. > > Search Google UA4WHX + Yemen and you will find a lot of > information. > > 73/DX de Osten SM5DQC [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zack Widup" > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 7:08 PM > Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] 7O > > > > > > I really don't know much about that country's government. Are there > > different factions struggling for power, or claiming authority in > > different areas? > > > > Is it possible some faction claims it can issue licenses, but in fact it > > isn't considered the real agency who issues licenses? > > > > 73, Zack W9SZ > > > > On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, KR4DA wrote: > > > >> If you visit the Yemem tourist center just about anybody can go there. > They > >> have 5 star hotels etc.. > >> But what I don't get is who is the official that the ARRL wants a receipt > >> from of being there and counting as official. > >> They will tell you it doesn't count. Tell me what you need from who to > count. > >> I have worked 7O1A and 7O1YGF I need 7O as a one of two left to be > acceptable > >> by ARRL. > >> > > > > > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems > > http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > > > > To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org > > > > This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA > > http://njdxa.org > > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems > http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > > To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org > > This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA > http://njdxa.org > > > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems > http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > > To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org > > This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA > http://njdxa.org > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
