A side note on this is that Evan's problem may be related to the US market. I bought a Kia Sorento when they first came out, and while there is basically only one model (except for a sun roof and some trim), the one model sold in Portugal is quite different from the one in the US. Mine is a four-cylinder diesel with reduction gearing and standard shift, the US version is a V-6 automatic without the low gearing.
I recall that when Honda first came out with an SUV, I asked a salesman what it would cost with standard shift. He told me it only came with automatic (again, not the same in Europe). When I asked him how one drove an automatic 4x4 off road, he informed me that if I took this 4x4 SUV off the road it would void the warranty! Bill Silvert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evan Kane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 6:52 AM Subject: Re: field-worthy SUV >I would echo the comments of Mr. Aney. Ironically, the older Subaru's > (i.e., 1987) get better mileage, and have the option of dropping into > 4-low, which is lost on newer models which don't even have real 4WD.