"How often do you actually need to put it in 4-wheel???"

Take it from a old desert rat, it isn't how often you shift into 4WD, it is how 
often you get stopped or stuck in a short patch of sand or a single deep rut on 
an otherwise fine 2WD road.

Cheers, Jim


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Malcolm McCallum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Sent: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 4:33 pm
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Field-worthy SUV










Doesn't it strike anyone kind of strange that this discussion about which
SUV to choose popped up right amidst a discussion about wastefulness?  I
suggest that 90% of us using 4-wheel drive SUVs for research really don't
need them.  How often do you actually need to put it in 4-wheel???

Just stoking the fire here!


On Thu, August 9, 2007 3:33 pm, Mike Marsh wrote:
> Robert, if you don't mind something old, find (with difficulty nowadays)
> a pre1985 Toyota land cruiser, also known in Australia as a "troopie".
> these are instantly recognizeable by the completely box-like cabin, and
> the long-wheelbase model was designed to carry a  squad of 8 soldiers in
> the rear sitting sidewise on two parallel benches, with a bench seat in
> front. The chassis and suspension is mor reminiscent of a locomotive
> than a truck completely solid. There is a manual, low-hi range
> transmission. You have to get out to lock or unlock the front hubs for 4
> wheel drive. A diesel model will chug down the road at 55 mph forever,
> cross rivers, tow less bush-worthy vehicles, etc.
> We went to Australia in 2001 to cross the continent with local friends
> from Sydney to the Kimberleys. We bought a used long wheelbase 1984
> troopie, had oil leaks in the front hubs fixed, and set out on a 3 week
> expedition. We covered 10,000 kilometers, perhaps 1/3 of it on unsealed
> (unpaved) roads of various degrees of roughness, had no breakdowns (well
> ,the clutch was slipping the last 600 km), one flat tire, and came away
> loving our vehicle, which we sold to a friend. You must not need to go
> fast, as the fuel economy drops. With 2 fuel tanks you have 400+ mile
> range.
> Mike Marsh
>> Subject:
>> Re: field-worthy SUV
>> From:
>> William Silvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date:
>> Tue, 7 Aug 2007 18:16:59 +0100
>>
>>
>> I'm no expert on this, but colleagues who have worked in Africa swear
>> by the Toyota pickups. They run circles around Land Rovers and the like.
>>
>> Bill Silvert
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Long" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 1:23 PM
>> Subject: field-worthy SUV
>>
>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> This is a fairly general question, but I'm looking for a small- or
>>> mid-sized
>>> SUV to serve as a field vehicle. It will be used extensively both on-
>>> and
>>> off-highway, although need not be capable of truly ruggged
>>> off-roading. A
>>> good amount of rear cargo space would be best (which eliminates some
>>> of the
>>> smaller SUVs like the Honda CRV), and decent gas mileage will be a
>>> strong
>>> plus.
>>>
>>> Can anyone recommend a few makes and models based on personal
>>> experience in
>>> the field?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Robert
>


Malcolm L. McCallum
Assistant Professor of Biology
Editor Herpetological Conservationa and Biology
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