perception is everything. If you notice, their was little difference among Giant universities, regional, and even for profits. Where the issue came was specifically with online.
I have taught online via video and via message boards for three different institutions. In some cases the programs were so lax a monkey with a potatoe gun could earn a degree, in others the programs were reasonably effective, made so by adding things you can't do in a classroom to make up for things that are frankly not possible online. I have taken a few online courses of late for GIS and for using R. These were technical courses through the US govt. Many online programs are nothing more than the old correspondence courses slopped online and claimed to be effective. I'ld teach online again, but only if I had control of the subject matter. Often times, this is not the case. The matter that surprised me is the dicotomy between for profits (most of which are online) and online. Notice they did not give the choice of in classroom settings in the figure. On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Joanna Wozniak <wozniak.joa...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Malcom, > > If you are attempting to start a discussion, this figure is quite useful. > But, if using it as an ultimate determination on employer perceptions of > online education, the figure is questionable at best. > > There are a number of online programs that offer the caliber expected for an > 'in person' program. In fact, I received my graduate degree in Environmental > Planning & Management from Johns Hopkins. Not only were the professors > excellent, the coursework prepared me directly for functions in the > workplace. The entire degree was online. I also formed a wide network of > colleagues and mentors that help me to this day. In my experience, > employers have been very receptive to my degree. In addition, several of > them told me they were considering online coursework for themselves. > > A number of fields of study are not wholly appropriate for an online > experience. Field study and laboratory work do require work away from the > desk and a guiding influence 'on hand'. However, that does not mean that > online programs with residency or cross-university cooperations cannot > account for those learning experiences. I have heard of online degree > programs forming partnerships to oversee fieldwork in the student's region. > In my current PhD program, we have online learning then fieldwork during the > residency portions. > > Depending on your goals, it's important to find the right online program. It > takes a lot of time to 'get through the weeds' in the online searches or by > word of mouth. > > I hope that students considering an online option are not turned off by the > surveys. Take the time to find the right program, fitting your needs and the > school's reputation in your field. > > Thank you for providing this opportunity to discuss online education. > > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:32 AM, malcolm McCallum > <malcolm.mccal...@herpconbio.org> wrote: >> >> http://chronicle.com/img/photos/biz/26employers_overview03.png >> >> Key figure: Employers prefer all kinds of colleges EXCEPT online!!!! >> (its not all that close either, for profit is ranked way better than >> online programs!) >> M >> >> -- >> Malcolm L. McCallum >> Department of Molecular Biology and Biochemistry >> School of Biological Sciences >> University of Missouri at Kansas City >> >> Managing Editor, >> Herpetological Conservation and Biology >> >> "Peer pressure is designed to contain anyone with a sense of drive" - >> Allan Nation >> >> 1880's: "There's lots of good fish in the sea" W.S. Gilbert >> 1990's: Many fish stocks depleted due to overfishing, habitat loss, >> and pollution. >> 2000: Marine reserves, ecosystem restoration, and pollution reduction >> MAY help restore populations. >> 2022: Soylent Green is People! >> >> The Seven Blunders of the World (Mohandas Gandhi) >> Wealth w/o work >> Pleasure w/o conscience >> Knowledge w/o character >> Commerce w/o morality >> Science w/o humanity >> Worship w/o sacrifice >> Politics w/o principle >> >> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any >> attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may >> contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized >> review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not >> the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and >> destroy all copies of the original message. > > -- Malcolm L. 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