Hello Chris,
Chris Hill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
therefore the current version. The V3 structure is the same as V2, so
it
must just be a documentation update for EDIFACT V3. Presumably, there
will
now be a Release 4 message to go with V4 syntax.
As to finding the CONTRL specification, if you go to the EDIFACT
web
site at http://www.unece.org/trade/untdid/welcome.htm and follow the
link
on the left for PART 4 United Nations rules for Electronic Data
Interchange
for Administration, Commmerce and Transport, then take item 2.3
UN/EDIFACT
syntax implementation guidelines, you will find a Section 10 EDIFACT
SERVICE & CONTROL MESSAGES which is just what you are looking for.
Unfortunately, the content is, and has been for many years, :---
[NOTE:
This Section is being submitted initially as a separate paper, which
after
approval, will be inserted]. Well, that's life.
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http://www.unece.org/cefact/
would be a better starting point.
Today the ISO/TC 154-UN/CEFACT Joint Syntax Working Group (JSWG) is
responsible for SERVICE & CONTRL. Their up-to-date results ( last
update: 2000-04-25 ) you find at http://www.gefeg.com/jswg/ . There
you also find the CONTRL message for UN/EDIFACT Syntax 4. A lot of
additional DEs appear on segment level.
Best regards,
Frank Dreisch
GEFEG
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: Controling the CONTRL message !
Chris Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Many thanks. I followed your lead to the Odette documentation CD and
found CONTRL V1. I have privately classified it under 'memorabilia'
:-)
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Having remembered the V1 from the printed documentation, I had
not
checked the ODETTE CD. Shame on me as a member of the ODETTE UK
Steering
Group :-( . Having now done so, on my Rel4 CD from last November, I
find
that it is not quite memorabilia. The title page for the message is
dated
April 93 and refers to the replacement of a previous CONTRL V1 - based
on
GTDI rules ( hands-up all those who remember that far back ) - by
CONTRL
V2. However, the actual document is for a CONTRL Version D Release 3
from
March 97. Since the document refers to the applicabliity of the CONTRL
message to EDIFACT syntax versions 1, 2 and 3, we can suppose that
this is
the revised version issued with V3 of EDIFACT syntax, and that it is
therefore the current version. The V3 structure is the same as V2, so
it
must just be a documentation update for EDIFACT V3. Presumably, there
will
now be a Release 4 message to go with V4 syntax.
As to finding the CONTRL specification, if you go to the EDIFACT
web
site at http://www.unece.org/trade/untdid/welcome.htm and follow the
link
on the left for PART 4 United Nations rules for Electronic Data
Interchange
for Administration, Commmerce and Transport, then take item 2.3
UN/EDIFACT
syntax implementation guidelines, you will find a Section 10 EDIFACT
SERVICE & CONTROL MESSAGES which is just what you are looking for.
Unfortunately, the content is, and has been for many years, :---
[NOTE:
This Section is being submitted initially as a separate paper, which
after
approval, will be inserted]. Well, that's life.
Having gone through all the effort, the BIG question is, of
course,
has anyone ever implemented CONTRL, and its friend APERAK. I am not
aware
of any implemetations, but I stand to be corrected. Personally, I
think we
should all implement both messages, but we are dependent on our EDI
and
business software suppliers providing the functionality, and our
trading
partners knowing what to do with the messages when they arrive.
Chris Hill
AP Hydraulics
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