On 2016-06-16 10:14:50, Bill Paul wrote:
> Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Jordan Justen had to 
> walk into mine at 09:37:31 on Thursday 16 June 2016 and say:
> 
> > On 2016-06-16 09:19:41, Bill Paul wrote:
> > > Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Jordan Justen
> > > had to
> > > 
> > > walk into mine at 18:11:27 on Wednesday 15 June 2016 and say:
> > > > Can you use git send-email rather than KMail to send your patches, so
> > > > they will be threaded?
> > > 
> > > You know, I spent about 10 minutes looking over my patches trying to
> > > think of there was *anything* I'd forgotten to do that someone might
> > > nitpick me over and for once I thought I'd gotten everything right. I
> > > guess should have known better.
> > > 
> > > No, actually, I can't use git send-email. I only have one machine that's
> > > setup to send e-mail and it's not the one I used for development.
> > 
> > Yeah. I've had a similar situation with some temp dev machines. Two
> > things that I've used in the past are:
> > 
> > 1. Push the branch to a personal git repo. Fetch it on the machine
> >    that can send email. Generate and send the patches.
> > 
> > 2. Generate the patches, and copy them to a machine that can send the
> >    patches. Use git send-email to send the patches.
> 
> That's fine, but are you saying I have to do one of these thing right now in 
> order to get these patches accepted?
> 

No. I wouldn't say that.

I don't think we should make these changes. Rather than promoting
usage of mingw based toolchains, I think we should deprecate them
altogether. They are not recommended toolchains for EDK II, and I
think they only cause confusion.

There's really nothing preventing you from having your own personal
tools_def config for a toolchain. The real question is whether the
toolchain is useful for a lot of people, or something we want to
officially support.

I'm still not sure what is preventing you from using GCC49. Last time
this came up, I don't think you answered why. David had a half-way
decent reason for using a mingw based toolchain, but I personally
don't think it was good enough to keep a separate toolchain in
tools_def.template.

If we could figure out a way to deprecate toolchains, then maybe we
could also have a 'community' or 'upsupported' class of toolchains.
Maybe tools_def.template gets split into tools_def.supported,
tools_def.deprecated, and tools_def.community. Or, maybe we could have
tools_def.MINGWGCC49, and make it very clear in the comments what
level of support the toolchain has.

-Jordan

> > 
> > > > On 2016-06-15 16:36:12, Bill Paul wrote:
> > > > > A while ago there was some talk of updating the UNIXGCC toolchain to
> > > > > support a newer version of GCC and binutils. Unfortunately after
> > > > > almost a year, nothing has happened. (I think Ard Biesheuvel said he
> > > > > had plans to fix this, but apparently nothing came of this.) In fact
> > > > > things have gotten slightly worse.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I've listened to all the various opinions about keeping the UNIXGCC
> > > > > toolchain option around, but I still think it's useful, and the fixes
> > > > > to update it and make it work again are small, so I'm hoping there
> > > > > won't be tremendous resistance them.
> > > > 
> > > > I don't think we should 'upgrade' UNIXGCC. Instead, I think we should
> > > > deprecate it. I think a better idea would be a MINGWGCC49 toolchain,
> > > > but even then, I don't think it is worth-while to maintain a separate
> > > > mingw gcc based toolchain.
> > > > 
> > > > Any reason that you can't use an elf based GCC 4.9 with the GCC49
> > > > toolchain? This is the best supported toolchain for (non OS X)
> > > > unix-like environments.
> > > > 
> > > > -Jordan
> > > > 
> > > > > This patch set updates the mingw-gcc-build.py script to use GCC 4.9.3
> > > > > and binutils 2.25, and updates the rules for UNIXGCC in tools_def
> > > > > accordingly. The only real issue that the newer compiler version must
> > > > > not use underscore decorations for X64 builds.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Aside from fixing the build script and rules, the only problem I ran
> > > > > into is that the -z linker option used for force 4K section
> > > > > alignment only works ELF versions of GCC. With the MinGW linker
> > > > > (which is targeted for PE/COFF), you need to use different flags. I
> > > > > tried to adjust the rules to add an exception for the UNIXGCC case
> > > > > without breaking the other cases. This should be thoroughly reviewed
> > > > > to make sure I did it right.
> > > > > 
> > > > > With these fixes I was able to build working IA32 and X64 release
> > > > > images of the OVMF firmware on my FreeBSD/amd64 host.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Bill Paul (2):
> > > > >   This commit updates the support for MinGW/UNIXGCC cross-build
> > > > >   
> > > > >     toolchain.
> > > > >   
> > > > >   This commit makes OvmfPkg builds work with UNIXGCC again.
> > > > >  
> > > > >  BaseTools/Conf/tools_def.template | 19 ++++++++++++-------
> > > > >  BaseTools/gcc/mingw-gcc-build.py  | 11 +++++------
> > > > >  OvmfPkg/OvmfPkgIa32.dsc           |  3 ++-
> > > > >  OvmfPkg/OvmfPkgIa32X64.dsc        |  3 ++-
> > > > >  OvmfPkg/OvmfPkgX64.dsc            |  3 ++-
> > > > >  5 files changed, 23 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
> 
> -- 
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> -Bill Paul            (510) 749-2329 | Senior Member of Technical Staff,
>                  wp...@windriver.com | Master of Unix-Fu - Wind River Systems
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