> Did you try the DSP upgrade? Have you pulled the front panel off and > cleaned the contacts with Deoxit? > Yes to all the above, and those things have nothing to do with the AGC problems, and little if any to do with audio harshness.. my K3 is up to date as it comes. > Does age start to factor in to this observation? I know everything in > the past is always better.....Ie we tend to forget how things really > were. At 47 I have some loss of hearing at certain ranges due to > issues with my ears as a child. My FT101EE did not sound better than my K3. > I have the analog radios sitting right beside the K3 so comparison is now today A=B I have them hooked to the same antennas same speakers etc all through switching so can compare apples to apples. I have more hearing loss I am sure at 67 than you do, so my comparison would probably be more critical if I had better hearing. I am talking good analog radios, not some old obsolete boatanchor. 73 Merv > On 12/4/11 8:53 AM, Merv Schweigert wrote: > >> Finally someone who hears what I hear, Im sure this thread will bring >> out the >> raving crowd of "mine is just fine". >> I have the exact same problem in pile ups, and would sure like to see the >> parameters changed to be able to adjust more to move the threshold higher. >> There was some attempt to "fix" this some time back but it stopped short of >> actually working, the agc settings came about but they did not go far >> enough >> in the adjustment ranges. >> Also the audio has been a problem for me for the 3 years I have owned >> the K3, >> it is rough or raspy sounding especially in a pile up situation, >> whether its the >> audio itself or something generated in the radio that comes out sounding >> like >> rough audio I do not know. But compared to my old analog radio it sounds >> harsh. It is very tiring after a contest. I know all the comments on how >> nice every ones sounds, mine does not, and apparently I am not alone. >> And no I am not bashing the K3, its my radio of choice, I have tried >> every setting >> and every "trick" suggested in the past 3 years and cannot get a >> satisfactory >> outcome on audio or AGC pileup management. >> Thanks Fred I thought I was the only one. 73 Merv K9FD/KH6 >> >>> Neat site but unfortunately none of the audio clips demonstrate the >>> pileups heard at dx locations like C6AAW. Once again this year the K3s >>> AGC failed to perform adequately for us. I found many times I just had >>> to turn AGC off. Signals were much cleaner and more distinguishable. >>> I think there are two things going on. First, I think the threshold >>> cannot be set high enough. The maximum is around S3 according to my >>> measurements. Thus, when you have a pileup of signals all in the S3, S4, >>> S5 region, which is common, AGC is compressing them together. When AGC >>> is off, these signals are now in a linear region of the transfer curve >>> and can be distinguished more easily. Second, and this is hard for me to >>> judge since it has been a while since I've used an analog audio >>> processing radio like the TS850, the audio doesn't sound "good". I >>> dunno. I think there is an inherent harshness(?) to digitally produced >>> audio as compared to analog audio. I'm not an audio guy, for sure. >>> >>> Sadly, I suspect top contesters are beginning to look for another radio >>> to replace the K3 :-( >>> >>> 73, >>> Fred >>> KE7X/C6AKX/C6AAW >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >
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