On 2/1/2012 2:23 PM, W7GJ, Lance wrote:
> One thing that disappointed me is that this very useful cross-mode
> feature (at least on 6m, where I do most of my operating), is
> available only if you are running VOX mode.
>
> I am not sure why it has been excluded when you run with a footswitch
> or sequencer to trigger the PTT line.

The answer is quite simple, the PTT line engages transmit in the mode
set by the "mode switch".  In order to switch modes, only the CW input
(straight key or paddles) can be activated.  Given the changes needed
in synthesizer/VCO settings, etc. between SSB and CW, I doubt that it
would be possible to change modes (SSB to CW) once the K3 is already
in transmit.

> Unless there is some special reason why can only ever work in VOX
 > mode, those of us using amplifiers and PTT mode would sure like
 > to see this feature included in future firmware updates!

While it might be possible to modify control to allow CW in SSB with
PTT if PTT and CW were activated at the very same instant (by adding
diodes from key in, dit in and dah in to PTT In), that would not fix
your issue with a sequencer since the sequencer (and foot switch) will
generally set PTT some fraction of a second *before* CW in any case.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2/1/2012 2:23 PM, W7GJ, Lance wrote:
> One thing that disappointed me is that this very useful cross-mode feature 
> (at least
> on 6m, where I do most of my operating), is available only if you are running 
> VOX mode.
>
> I am not sure why it has been excluded when you run with a footswitch or 
> sequencer to
> trigger the PTT line.  I NEVER run VOX mode here, so I have been forced to 
> use macros
> to invoke SPLIT mode operation on different modes and different frequencies 
> to try to
> simulate the operation of the built-in cross mode feature.
>
> Unless there is some special reason why can only ever work in VOX mode, those 
> of us
> using amplifiers and PTT mode would sure like to see this feature included in 
> future
> firmware updates!
>
> Thanks for the bandwidth!  VY 73, Lance
>
>
>
> On 2/1/2012 7:09 PM, Gary Hinson [via Elecraft] wrote:
>> <Resent as the original didn't appear - sri if this is a dupe>
>>
>> Mmm, interesting.
>>
>> Prompted by other comments, I tested CW-in-SSB band-by-band. Starting at
>> 10m and working systematically down to 160m, the K3 would go into transmit
>> mode but produce no power out on any band. However, after moving 'down'
>> from 160m to 6m, it mysteriously started working again - and now works
>> correctly on every band.
>>
>> So, it seems that merely by changing bands and hitting the paddle, I have
>> cleared whatever it was that blocked the transmitter in CW-in-SSB. How odd!
>>
>> Frank (or anyone else whose CW-in-SSB doesn't work): perhaps you would try
>> the same thing?
>>
>> It still smells of a firmware bug to me.
>>
>> 73
>> Gary ZL2iFB
>>
>>   >  -----Original Message-----
>>   >  From: [hidden email]</user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=7244038&i=0>
>> [mailto:elecraft-
>>   >  [hidden email]</user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=7244038&i=1>] On 
>> Behalf Of iain
>> macdonnell - N6ML
>>   >  Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:17 a.m.
>>   >  To: N3XX
>>   >  Cc: [hidden email]</user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=7244038&i=2>
>>   >  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
>>   >
>>   >  For one thing, it's quite useful on 6m, where DX will often switch
>>   >  back and forth between CW and SSB on the same frequency).
>>   >
>>   >  73,
>>   >
>>   >  ~iain / N6ML
>>   >
>>   >
>>   >
>>   >  On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 2:11 PM, N3XX<[hidden email]
>> </user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=7244038&i=3>>  wrote:
>>   >  >  I must be missing something. Â Can someone explain why you would want
>>   >  >  to send CW in SSB mode?
>>   >  >  I did go and find the setting, changed it to SSB +CW, and it works
>>   >  >  fine here, using firmware 4.36.
>>   >  >
>>   >  >  Tnx&  73,
>>   >  >  Tim - N3XX
>>   >  >
>>   >  >  On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk<<mailto:[hidden email]
>> </user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=7244038&i=4>>[hidden email]
>> </user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=7244038&i=5>>
>>   >  >  wrote:
>>   >  >  Hi group,
>>   >  >  Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode, but
>>   >  >  it no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in
>>   >  >  CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my paddle
>>   >  >  while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm using
>>   >  >  firmware version 04.39.
>>   >  >  Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something?
>>   >  >
>>   >  >
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