I will say something "nice" about ACLog/N3FJP.  

For a casual operator, its probably the best log package out
there for all its capabilities.  It will take a while to
outgrow and a while to find all its "compromises". But it
does a lot with a rather flat learning curve.  Its the most
powerful casual operator log around!

I have been a user since version 2, which I paid a whopping
$20 for.  Every update to date has been free.  You load it,
and you instinctively know what to do... It looks like a
cross between a paper log and an Excel spreadsheet.  Scott
has done a great job of documenting functions within the
program itself. Add to this the simplicity of use, and you
dont even need a help file or a manual to do any of the
everyday logging chores that a casual operator might want to
do.

The ACLog LoTW integration is paperclip simple and hockey
puck reliable.  One button does it all! 

An earlier thread spoke about LOGic 8/9.  Most of my local
friends have this $125 software along with their IC7800'ds
and PW-1's.  Setting aside that Logic is written in FoxPro,
a DBMS that has been obsolete for almost 10 years now, a
casual operator can do 95% of what Logic can do on ACLog for
$100 less, much in the same way that I can hear and work
anything my 7800/PW1 owning friends can hear and work on my
K3/P3/ALS600 rig for $9,000 less than their huge Icom rigs
can, given equivalent aluminum, and I can "take it with me"
in a 9.5lb portable package that I can lift to and from my
desk alone.  

My club also purchased Logic for, frankly, no other reason
than because "it is the best" as advised by the above 7800
owners.  It has trouble dealing with multiple users on
multiple computers (a probable limitation in the FoxPro
tuple locking code, in my professional opinion, Dennis has
had to make several workaround to it with some success, but
its still not working well).  This has been so much of a
pain that we have dispensed with trying to run it on all 5
logging computers and run N1MM on 4 of them, exporting ADIF
logs to Logic for upload to LoTW.  And even that could be
covered by ACLog, however, Logic is "paid for" and the QSL
manager likes it, and I dont need another job to do at the
club, so I let sleeping dogs lie :)

Does ACLog have limitations?  For more "advanced" users,
certainly.  It did have issues with rig control of K3,
mostly when clicking on a spot; it didnt deal with mode
settings correctly.  I hear that has been fixed with V3.2,
but I still have 3.0 installed. Even with V3.0, how hard is
it to reach up and hit the MODE button every once in a while
when ACLog fails to correctly deal with the mode switch from
a spot?

Do I still use ACLog?  No, I outgrew it when I moved to an
SO2R capable station configuration. I use Logger32 now
because, even with its own variable limitations, I like the
look of it (it resembles N1MM, which I use for contesting)
and the bandmap and the included world maps and its ability
to deal with two rigs (one at a time; ACLog is not SO2R
capable in ANY situaton). But admittedly, it is a complex
software package that has a learning curve. I dont use a lot
of its capability, but what I do use I now feel comfortable
with. It also has integrated RTTY, something ACLog does not
have (you can add the K7RE plug in, but its a bit clunky).

DXLabs, which I have also installed, is complex as well, but
works wonderfully in SO2R and does just about anything...
But I dont like the looks of it and I dont like how much
screen realestate it wants to look "right" for me.  It, too,
has a steep learning curve, and I would rather spend my time
operating than configuring software... I do enough of that
at work. 

For a casual operator, its hard to beat ACLog.  It grows on
you with its elegant simplicity (much like a K1 does!) and
is really simple to deal with.  I've yet to find a better
LoTW implementation than the drop dead simple one Scott
created for ACLog... So much so that I currently export my
Logger32 LoTW submissions to ACLog and confirm them using
that program instead of bothering with Logger32's LoTW
setup.  Im not doing that forever though, and as I climb up
the Logger32 learning curve, Im sure I will stop.

But in retrospect, I do miss the simplicity and efficiency
of ACLog.  Again, for Casual Operators, the feature set and
useability of this package is very hard to beat at any
price.  I know that Elecraft owners can relate to that
paradigm.

Lu Romero - W4LT
K3/P3/MFJ998/AL600 - The "AL K-Line"


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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 13:52:58 -0500
From: Terry Schieler <terry.schie...@wirelessusa.com>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3]  N3FJP rig control settings?
To: 'David Gilbert' <xda...@cis-broadband.com>
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Message-ID:
<6dd19ce6-7067-4088-9bf2-9000755f8...@wirelessusa.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Well, a point to you, Dave.  I am not against moving on from
ACLog, it's just that
I'd become so accustomed to it that I had preferred to
"tough it out" until
*someone* figured it out.  But, from the responses I've seen
here, my hope is dashed.
 So, I will continue my search for a replacement program.  I
have a half dozen or so
loaded onto my shack computer and I'm ready to move on.

Thanks to all.

73, Terry, W0FM



-----Original Message-----
From: David Gilbert [xda...@cis-broadband.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 11:54 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?



Most of those other programs actually work, though.

Programs like Logger32 (free and well supported) are modular
and easily tailored to
be as simple as you want them to be.  And did I mention that
they actually work like
they're supposed to?  I was a registered user of ACLog for a
while but got fed up
with it's faults and shortcomings, got tired of N3FJP's
excuses for the problems that
other programs didn't have, and abandoned it long ago.  I
realize you don't intend to
do that, but in my opinion it's a self inflicted wound.

73,
Dave   AB7E



On 6/2/2012 6:19 PM, Terry Schieler wrote:
>
> Other than recommending other logging programs can anyone
offer an ACLog command
solution. I'm not a contester and have tried all the popular
logging/rig control
offerings that many of you use.  Most programs offer WAY too
many features for my
needs.  Many thanks.
>
> 73,
>
> Terry, W0FM


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