Don,

That makes sense too, thanks.

I still would like to have an option of a tap off the low power drive before 
the PA with the PA disabled when using an external transverter, so that I could 
have the benefit of controllable low power with low wideband transmitted noise 
and no heat problems at high duty cycle.

73

David Anderson GM4JJJ




> On 5 Jan 2014, at 20:17, Don Wilhelm <w3...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> 
> David,
> 
> I don't know about the power control characteristics of the KX3 yet, but with 
> the K2 without the K60XV option), more steady power control is achieved in 
> the 2 to 10 watt range as compared to lower power levels.  It all has to do 
> with resolution - the power is set in 0.1 watt increments, and an uncertainty 
> of 1 count can double or halve the power level at very low values, but that 
> same uncertainty is much less at 2 watts and even less at 4 watts.
> 
> For JT65 and other long transmission full duty cycle periods, the heat 
> dissipation must be considered if you want to prolong the life of the finals 
> - so use 2 or 3 watts.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 1/5/2014 2:42 PM, David Anderson wrote:
>> David,
>> 
>> I have a further thought about the difficulties of using the KX3 with an 
>> external transverter, if we reduce the maximum power output for the XVTR by 
>> using the XV PWR H setting to say a very low value (say the lowest which is 
>> 0.1 Watt), then is there a danger that the relative transmitted wideband 
>> amplifier noise will be higher than if we kept the power at say 4 Watts and 
>> then used a big attenuator on the input of the TX port on the transverter?
>> 
>> All my previous experience with transverters have been with radios that had 
>> dedicated low power transverter RF out ports. Even then there were problems 
>> with thermal power drift, excessive drive levels due to lack of the normal 
>> ALC that radio normally depended on when using it on HF etc.
>> 
>> I presume that there is no way to easily bypass the PA and driver stages 
>> within the KX3 to get lower drive power without reducing the TX gain. I have 
>> been looking at the KX3 schematics trying to work out where the as yet 
>> unreleased KX3 internal 2m transverter gets it drive from and at what level 
>> that is.
>> 
>> Perhaps Elecraft may give us some clues or guidance.
>> 
>> What would be neat, but it don't suppose we can expect Elecraft to do it, 
>> would be a board that would replace the planned internal 2m transverter, and 
>> would just act as a lower power transverter output from before the PA 
>> stages, on an SMA connector where the 2m antenna socket will be, with the 
>> main antenna BNC as a receive only port, (though that could be dangerous), 
>> perhaps a  low power TX/RX on the SMA would be best.
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> David Anderson GM4JJJ
> 
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