If you want to use QOS tagging, you need to make sure that you 'somehow' get all the packets tagged in your network. It is harder to do than it sounds. DD-WRT routers seem to do it 'ok' but I have yet to solve it perfectly. In my situation, my remote base is at a cottage and it works perfectly unless there is a gaggle of family each with at least 3 wireless devices connected. I has given me lots of real world practice in trying to tune a network in such a way that my RemoteRig is not impacted.
There is another issue that routers today have a problem dealing with, and that is buffer bloat. In a real time application like VoIP, you do NOT want large buffers in your routers as that will actually cause you more problems. Last I check, and it has been some time now, there were no routers that handled buffer bloat correctly. I do believe Meru Wireless (an expensive corporate solution) and Astaro routers manage buffer bloat reasonably well. The moral of the story is to stay wired unless you have to go wireless. A single box of 1000ft of Cat 5 isn't very expensive and provides a much better connection in such a solution. Again, this is from real world experience. Mike va3mw On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Gerry Hull <ge...@w1ve.com> wrote: > I have a MicroTik inexpensive router that supports QOS, and it helps. > > However, all bets are off when using far-flung networks. > > BTW, I've been exclusively VoIP with my landlines for over 10 years. > Quality is very good (using the correct provider), and, yes, cost is very > low. All the major telecoms in the US use VoIP for backhaul from cellular > sites -- it is far less expensive than TDM. I was happy to see RemoteRig > using SIP.. It works well. > > > > > Gerry Hull, W1VE | Hancock, NH USA | +1-603-499-7373 > AKA: VE1RM | VY2CDX | VO1CDX | 6Y6C | 8P9RM > <http://www.yccc.org> <http://www.yccc.org/> > <http://www.facebook.com/gerryhull> > <https://plus.google.com/+GerryHull/posts> < > http://www.twitter.com/w1ve> > > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Mitch Wolfson DJØQN <dj...@gmx.net> > wrote: > > > Just a further tip from my side: the RemoteRig RRC allows ToS tagging. > It > > is entered in the advanced settings under "IP Type-of-Service (dec)". The > > manual refers to RFC791 that use this in QoS networks and support this > > function. Entries must be made in decimal. > > > > Unfortunately, I have found no "home" routers so far (at least here in > DL) > > that support QoS tags. However, this will for sure help those that do > have > > routers supporting QoS. > > > > > > 73, > > Mitch DJ0QN > > > > Mitch Wolfson > > DJØQN / K7DX > > Neubiberger Str. 21, 85640 Putzbrunn > > Skype: mitchwo - Home:+49 89 32152700 - Mobile:+49 172 8374436 > > Echolink: 3001 - IRLP: 5378 > > > > On 18.07.2014 11:22, David Woolley wrote: > > > >> It is standard to use UDP (RTP) over VoIP for the reasons given by Iain. > >> Over a corporate network, VoIP traffic should have a QoS tagging on > the IP > >> packets which causes routers to prioritise it. VoIP over the internet > has > >> always been done for cost, not quality reasons, as the whole concept > behind > >> IP networks is at conflict with constant rate traffic; the telephone > >> industry devised ATM as a packet network for that application (although > >> they are now moving to IP, because voice is no longer the dominant > >> bandwidth user - but I am sure they will prioritise their voice > traffic). > >> > >> RTP has a marker bit which indicates a safe place to dump a latency > >> buffer's contents. Conceivably setting this during tuning would be a > good > >> idea. If the remote operation protocol doesn't user RTP, someone has > been > >> re-inventing the wheel. > >> > >> As someone mentioned WiFi. It is generally accepted, in the VoIP world, > >> that WiFi and VoIP don't mix because WiFi introduces additional > latency. I > >> believe it also does link level retransmission which, means latency can > be > >> particularly bad if you don't have ideal conditions. > >> > >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to ge...@w1ve.com > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to va...@portcredit.net > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com