Don et al,
I sense this discussion is targeting the use of a dipole on a single band. What is being missed is that many of us use a dipole cut for for one band and use it for the bands above. What we see are high SWRs on all of the higher frequency bands. We use balanced feeds, open wire or ladder line, as far as we can before we transition to coax. That transition is a good current balun. What this does is control losses due to high SWR and keeps RF currents off the outside of the coax shield. What has been said in previous notes might be true, but they will prevent or make use of balanced feeders quite difficult.

An 80 meter dipole used on 40 or 20, for example, is a pretty good antenna. However, it begs to be fed with open wire or equal. That means no balun can be used at the antenna feed point. The exception is to use very expensive coax. :-)

73,
Barry
K3NDM

------ Original Message ------
From: "Don Wilhelm" <donw...@embarqmail.com>
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: 1/13/2019 6:59:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Slightly Unbalanced dipole?

Al,

If not placed at the antenna feedpoint (up at the antenna), then the feedline 
may radiate due to common mode current.
For feedlines using parallel conductors, the problem is not as bad if the 
feedline exits at right angles from the radiator for at least a half 
wavelength.  In that case, the common mode choke can be placed at the junction 
of the parallel line and coax.

In all cases of a radiator fed with coax, a good common mode choke at the 
radiator feedpoint is necessary.  Even though the RF on the inside of the coax 
is balanced, when the coax reaches the radiator, the side of the antenna 
connected to the coax shield sees two paths.  One is the side of the radiator, 
and the other is the outside of the coax braid - it will dutifully split to 
follow both paths depending on the impedance of each one.  A good common mode 
choke will prevent the RF current from seeing the coax shield as another 
conductor.

A similar situation exists at the transition between parallel feedline and coax.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 1/13/2019 6:42 PM, Al Lorona wrote:
By the way, whenever Jim says, "...a very good common mode choke at the feedpoint of 
an antenna...," he means an antenna fed with coax. For the rest of us, of course, 
that choke would (should) go at the output of the antenna tuner, whether in the shack or 
close by.

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