Why couldn't this be a configuration setting?  The A>B can be set like it is
now (single tap and if needed a second tap)or a single tap would be an
A>B[all]. If this is something you would like to change on a regular basis,
then give the ability to use a PF key to toggle the selection.


Bob Serwy - N9RS

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill W5WVO
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 1:00 PM
To: Brian Alsop; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Illogical coding

Agreed, this would be an easily fixed "bug" -- just include the
A>B[all] function as part of the results of pressing SPLIT.

However, as a 6-meter operator, I vote for retaining the current behavior
as-is, due to the common occurrence of split-mode (as opposed to
split-frequency) QSOs. You could make the automatic behavior you desire be a
configuration option -- "SPLIT invokes
A>B[all]" or something like that. I can see where an HF DXer would
like it to work that way. However, for my purposes on VHF, I prefer to have
all this stuff manually under my control, as it is now. Please don't do away
with this more flexible capability altogether!

And as an ancillary comment, I hope the fix for the SSB/CW VFO offset issue
is coming up in the queue Real Soon Now. Been waiting a long time. :-)

Bill W5WVO

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Alsop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 5:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Illogical coding


> Bob,
>
> In fact, just pressing SPLIT should get you to the same
condition as two
> A-B taps and pressing SPLIT.
>
> Miss one of the three steps are you're transmitting on the DX
frequency.
>
> I just don't understand the logic.   It isn't if operating split
is a
> rare occurrence.
>
> Those few who want cross band or cross mode splits ought to have
to do
> the extra taps.
>
> I really hope Elecraft will fix this some day.   Other rigs have
it right.
>
> Of course there is the $600 solution........
>
> 73 de Brian/K3KO
>
> Bob Cunnings wrote:
>
> >In a related vein, the "improvement" introduced in version
1.87/1.69
> >still gets me once in a while. Previously, a single tap of the
A->B
> >button copied frequency, mode and filter settings from VFO A to
VFO B.
> >Starting with 1.87, two taps are needed - the first to copy the
> >frequency, and another to copy mode and filter settings. The
result
> >can be the same as in your case if I go split but forget to tap
A->B
> >twice. No rationale was given for the change, but from a
ergonomics
> >standpoint I never understood why the most common use case was
> >complicated in this way.
> >
> >Bob NW8L
> >
> >On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Robert Ansell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hi All, I recently had to replace the front panel on my SN
1401 K3 because of a blank display. This just arrived today with
the latest software/firmware dated 9/9/08. All went smoothly and
now I can see the display as it should be. I went through all the
cal and setup routines and all was perfect. I was turning my
attention to the bands and was looking to snag a new country on
cw. I noticed that the station was listening up in frequency so I
engaged a split on VFO B and set the frequency and tried to call
but no action out of my key. I looked at the display and
discovered that I was no longer in QSK only VOX so I hit the QSK
button and VFO B came back and said N/A in the screen! I tried
several times to engage QSK but no way was I going to get the K3
to key. Going back to XIT I was able to snag that guy but here is
where it gets interesting. I called Elecraft and asked what was
going on and Scott had no Idea but asked me what version of manual
I had and discovered that I had an old version C that was over a
year old! I downloaded the newest version of the manual and much
to my surprise there was a note that is not in the earlier version
about B SET that indicated it could be set up in a different mode!
Sure enough that VFO had been set up for SSB and that was why I
could not key the radio. Why on earth if you are in CW on VFO A
and press split would you ever expect that  VFO B would ever
default to anything but CW on VFO B!!! This in my opinion is
completely illogical. Can anyone out there give me an explanation
why I should be wrong on this account? I might have been upset if
I didn't go back to XIT to solve the problem but I can just see in
a contest situation where someone was unaware of this that sparks
wouldn't fly. What say you guys!
> >>
> >>Bob Ansell K1WGM
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