"Completely bogus" is in the eye of the beholder, Joe.

While I find the K3 ergonomics to be much better than I expected, there is
room for improvement, as many have pointed out.

73,
Steve NN4X






On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV <li...@subich.com> wrote:

>
> > The band switching, VFO management, mode switching and many
> > aspects of its front panel design needs a rework. Most of the
> > contest operators that I know seem to own a FT2000, they will
> > all acknowledge that its no  K3, however they all feel the
> > same as I do about the K3 and its ergonomics.
>
> Having used the FT-1000D, Mark V, and FT-2000 series of radios
> for nearly 20 years before moving the K3, the "front panel
> design" and "ergonomics" issues are completely bogus.  There
> are other transceivers with user interfaces very similar to
> the K3 - including some from Yaesu - and, while different than
> the FT-990/1000/2000/9000 the K3 User interface is no less usable.
>
> Anyone who makes the size/user interface argument is simply
> making an excuse for not learning a new user interface based
> prejudice.  Any contester or DXer who uses one of the popular
> contest or day to day logging packages with "point and shoot"
> features is insulated from the transceiver's user interface
> to such an extent that the differences among user interfaces
> is largely irrelevant anyway.
>
> 73,
>
>   ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of juergen piezo
> > Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:42 AM
> > To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do
> >
> >
> > K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do?
> >
> > I  still dont own a K3. I just cant bring myself to  buy the
> > K3 because
> > of its front panel layout and its operation. Although I would
> > very much like its receiver performance.
> >
> >  I have used one at a contest station and all that I can
> > say is that I would not buy one until a new front panel layout is
> > designed.
> >
> > The band switching, VFO management, mode switching and many
> > aspects of its front panel design needs a rework. Most of the
> > contest operators that I know seem to own a FT2000, they will
> > all acknowledge that its no  K3, however they all feel the
> > same as I do about the K3 and its ergonomics. Most of us are
> > just not portable operators, so dont need small size 12 volt radios.
> >
> > There are many good radios that  would be a good front panel
> > design model for the K3a. The FT950, FT920, Icom 737series,
> > TS850 etc all have a very workable ergonomic front panel
> > layouts that are easy to use. The FT950 is so well layed out
> > and very attractive and it would be  a good one to copy for a
> > new K3 front panel.
> >
> > If the K3 is so modular, why would it be so hard not to
> > offer a bigger box with a new front panel? There are many off
> > the shelf 19 inch rack
> > boxes that could be used with a new front panel styling.
> >
> > I would suggest that a new K3 panel  with built in P3, power
> > supply and 200 watt PA stage would be a big hit.  Everyone
> > seems to be so over the moon with the K3's small size, I must
> > be a freak with alien genes to not like the radios front
> > panel  layout and operational ergonomics.
> >
> > The firmware feature list or lack of progress I can live
> > with. However a awkward  panel layout and poor ergomics thats
> > carved in rock I cant really live  with.  When I used the K3
> > all that I ever used was the band switch, volume and RIT
> > control.... thats all, just like a Mil-spec radio.  It was
> > very hard to do otherwise, so I probably missed a lot of the
> > K3's potential.
> >
> > I too live in hope that a new K4 is coming! I could even live
> > with a K3 junior with one receiver and a new front panel design.
> >
> > John
> >
> > --- On Sat, 9/19/09, Dave G4AON <elecr...@astromag.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Dave G4AON <elecr...@astromag.co.uk>
> > > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do
> > > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> > > Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 1:58 AM
> > > Unfortunately the K3 firmware seems
> > > to have wandered off track a bit,
> > > two years ago when the K3 started rolling out the following were on
> > > the "to do" list and formed part of the specification:
> > >
> > > 0.5 ppm TCXO calibration
> > > Synchronous AM
> > >
> > > These might not be the most important issues in the world, but were
> > > included in the original specification and are in the Oct
> > > 24th 2007 "B1
> > > manual". Currently the K3 fails to meet specification!
> > >
> > > Can we have some indication of their position on the
> > > firmware roadmap?
> > >
> > > 73 Dave, G4AON
> > > K3/100 #80
> > >
>
>
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