Great analogy, but is anyone willing to come to Pensacola Florida? The weather is awesome! :)
> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 17:48:49 -0500 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Tree VMC tool changer help > > There is a certain point where any person or persons you get to help, > will spend so much time "trying things" and explaining things with you > (which you said you don't want to learn) that it would make more sense > to have your "help" just travel there and do it, rather than do a "try > and repeat" over and over again remotely. If you had a month or more to > do this job and rely on casual assistance, it would be one thing. But > that is not your situation. > > Here's an attempt at an analogy: > You are obviously familiar with machine tools. Say that a shop owner > (a one man shop) was on vacation and he got a call that a set of parts > needed to be made in his shop right away. The part blueprints and > materials are delivered to the shop. The shop owners cousin is > available and lives near the shop but has never run a machine tool > before. The shop owner convinces him to work in the shop and run the > machines and make the parts while he tells him what to do over the phone > and via email. Another issue, the cousin can't read blueprints. > Last issue, this is a sizable job and it would take the shop owner 2 > weeks to to the job. The cousin has two weeks to complete the same job. > > Dave > > > On 3/9/2014 3:04 PM, Michael Chism wrote: > > Hi Dave, yes mesa 5i25 and 7i77, > > I really cant understand why its so difficult.... :( I am willing to do > > everything that needs to be done on my side including trying and trying > > files over and over.... > >> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 01:15:01 -0500 > >> From: [email protected] > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Tree VMC tool changer help > >> > >> On 3/8/2014 11:46 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > >>> On 03/08/2014 07:41 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > >>>> I am not clear just where you are in your project. You mentioned two > >>>> weeks > >>>> but is that two weeks from now or two weeks from when you start? > >>>> > >>>> > >>> After looking at the manuals, my first guess is that the changer control > >>> is built into the main controller so LinuxCNC will need to do low level > >>> control. Also it looks like the carousel uses a servo motor and high > >>> count encoder like a regular axis. I have used a Limit2 (3?) component > >>> to good effect on my carousel but I haven't completed that project, so I > >>> can't put that feather in my cap yet. The spindle orientation hasn't > >>> become obvious yet. I'm tending to think two weeks to get the changer > >>> working would be optimistic. If it were my machine, I might get the draw > >>> bar to operate first, then if time runs out, parts could still be made > >>> with manual loading. > >>> > >>> This looks like a capable machine as is, is the controller completely > >>> dead? > >> If there is a servo in there I can't see that being done without someone > >> onsite unless someone has a LOT of time to try and work through it > >> remotely (warning -painful!). The limit3 works fine for machine motion. > >> I have limit3s running a high speed bottle packaging machine and it > >> has been running for a couple of years with no problems. CL is > >> great for state machines since it is relatively easy to debug live. > >> But that means that the changer will require Hal and CL and that is > >> going to get complex. Someone needs to camp out there for some time to > >> build the software and debug the changer one step at a time. Either > >> that, or ship the machine to the person/company doing the software if > >> there is a bunch of other work to do also - as in changeout the controls > >> and rewire the machine. > >> What hardware are you using to control the machine? Mesa boards? > >> > >> Dave > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> Subversion Kills Productivity. Get off Subversion & Make the Move to > >> Perforce. > >> With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. Merge that actually works. > >> Faster operations. Version large binaries. Built-in WAN optimization and > >> the > >> freedom to use Git, Perforce or both. Make the move to Perforce. > >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=122218951&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Emc-developers mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subversion Kills Productivity. Get off Subversion & Make the Move to > > Perforce. > > With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. Merge that actually works. > > Faster operations. Version large binaries. Built-in WAN optimization and > > the > > freedom to use Git, Perforce or both. 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