Hi Nicklas:
    I am not seeing any response on this forum regarding the erosion pulse 
frequency. 
Wikipedia mentions on their Electrical_discharge_machining page:
> Several hundred thousand sparks occur per second...
and in Ben Fleming's book on pulse type EDM, he shows frequencies that range 
from 2.5kHz up to 40kHz for finishing burns.

     It's not yet clear to me that the servo response needs to be fast enough 
to respond to every spark.   It might be helpful here if I described some of 
the basics of the process, based on personal experience and more so based on 
others' info, sources unknown.
The EDM process removes metal by superheating it with electrical sparks, and 
the collapse of said spark which per some authors blows out part of the metal.
The rapidly cooled workpiece surface becomes very hard and the surface finish 
is not particularly integral.  This is commonly called a re-cast layer.
The sparks while underway have very little resistance as measured in ohms.
The electrical supply must be stopped periodically (square wave or other) so 
the present arc extinguishes and the next spark initiates at the next closest 
point between electrode and workpiece.  That spark path could include bits of 
metal (called swarf) that have been blown out previously, resulting in a longer 
arc path and unstable erosion.  Flushing is important to minimize or eliminate 
these alternate spark paths.
The electrode advances (sinks) in a manner that is nearly the same as a bridge 
support caisson being sunk into a riverbed.  The workers remove whatever is in 
the way to allow the caisson to descend through the mud, gravel and boulders 
down to and into the bedrock.  See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caisson_(engineering)
<end of process particulars>

    Each spark or pulse will vary from the one following and the one preceding 
it.  My experience suggests that a little averaging is not a bad thing, in 
order to keep the process from hunting constantly.  This could be mathematical 
averaging of erosion gap voltages or it might be a lower servo response 
frequency or other solution.  Also backlash and machine elasticity needs to be 
considered.  Even with a 40kHz servo response, the electrode to workpiece gap 
is not likely to change at 40kHz.
     TJ pointed reminded us that EDM is a very slow process.  Whether it is 99% 
of optimal or 99.99% of optimal won't change the burn times by much.  If the 
cost of 40kHz servo response on four axes is excessive and 1kHz servo response 
is reasonable then I say we start with 1kHz on all four axes and let experience 
inform us on how right or wrong that choice was.   It's possible that someone 
with hole popper work could run at 1 and 40kHz and report if there is a 
noticeable benefit at 40kHz.
     


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On Thu, 3/3/16, Nicklas Karlsson <[email protected]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] EDM gap control (Control parameters)
 To: "Pete_Gruendeman" <[email protected]>, "EMC developers" 
<[email protected]>
 Date: Thursday, March 3, 2016, 12:01 PM
 
 > ... 40kHz servo
 response is very responsive but not necessary if the spark
 frequency is less than that.
 > Pete
 Gruendeman
 
 I have a choice
 between 40kHz servo thread inside driver or linuxcnc 1kHz
 servo thread. For z motion only choice is simple but for
 motion of several axis/joints for example wire EDM?
 
 
 Nicklas Karlsson
 

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