HI Ken,

excuse my nievity here, but I need help understanding this.


A cable is only its characteristic impedance when fed and terminated in 
matching impedance. That's why I said non-perfect impedance of the cable.

So, since the antenna output impedance is all over the place, you can't say 
that the cable is 50 Ohms.

To get around this, we add pads on antennas ( like when we do NSA measurements 
) to improve the match between antenna and cable. I would argue that the 
receiver head, with a pretty good termination right there, is much better than 
the uncontrolled match between the antenna and Zo of the cable. 

What am I missing?

Cheers,

Derek.


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From: Ken Javor <ken.ja...@emccompliance.com>
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Sent: Wed, Aug 31, 2011 12:15 pm
Subject: Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?


Expansion on this: “Less issues matching a complex source impedance like and 
antenna to the non-perfect impedance of a cable.”

Cable is usually 50 Ohms.  It is the antenna that can have a relatively high 
vswr into 50 Ohms, especially at the low end of use (i.e., biconical below 80 
MHz, and in general wideband antennas at their low end). If the rf head has a 
50 Ohm output impedance, then the match is better than the antenna alone, and 
the measurement accuracy increases due to lower vswr.

Ken Javor

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From: Derek Walton <lfresea...@aol.com>
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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:56:39 -0400 (EDT)
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Subject: Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

All good points.

you could add that the antenna would better represent free space..... I wonder 
what the effect of Cal factors would be?

Less issues matching a complex source impedance like and antenna to the 
non-perfect impedance of a cable.

Elimination of temperature effects of the cable dielectric.
 
I'm sure there are more.
 
Cheers,

Derek.
 
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From: John Woodgate <j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

In message <40be5b4eca254ad7bae8a4d5ef896...@tamuracorp.com>, dated Wed, 
31 Aug 2011, Brian Oconnell <oconne...@tamuracorp.com> writes:

>Why is it good that the 'RF head' is separate and/or can be attached to 
>the antenna?

No cable loss?
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