Agree with Mr. Woodgate, but there are additional problems. A good reference 
for this is Mr. Perkin's presentations and articles on the subject. Current and 
voltage waveforms in ground and touch Type Tests for switch-mode power supplies 
are very complex; and can vary in amplitude, frequency, crest factor, and duty 
cycle over the range of rated operating conditions, and will seldom be 
sinusoidal.

There is also the issue of multiple parallel current paths for leakage, which 
can be from the test configuration, loads, input reference and impedance, and 
the various influences of the Dark Side.

For touch current, ground current, and the related WV Type Tests, there is no 
commercial test equipment available that can satisfy my requirements. Have 
built several iterations of the basic HBM nodes and signal conditioning over 
the eons that have served me well and identified problems that commercial test 
equipment would probably not reveal.

Brian


-----Original Message-----
From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 11:30 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Kikusui TOS3200 Leakage Current Meter

Stray capacitances are different in the two modes, but probably only affect
measurements if there are relatively strong high-frequency components in the
current.

With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO - Own Opinions Only
www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England

Sylvae in aeternum manent.

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Tarver [mailto:ptar...@enphaseenergy.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 25 April 2017 00:49
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] Kikusui TOS3200 Leakage Current Meter

Hello.

I am using a Kikusui TOS3200 to measure touch current for a 61010-1
application.

The product is double-insulated and has accessible USB port connector shells
connected to the secondary circuit reference.

When using the TOS3200 in meter mode (using the two external meter leads), I
obtain different results than if I measure using the faceplate 5-15R outlet
and one external meter lead. For each test, I'm using the same measurement
networks when attempting to correlate the results.

When using the outlet, the meter lead connects to the USB shell.

When in meter mode, I am connecting one lead to the USB connector shell and
one lead to the power conductor of interest.

Has anyone experienced this with either the TOS3200 or other leakage/touch
current meters?

FWIW, the manual does not indicate any special considerations are needed
when using meter mode.

The instrument is in good condition and went through a calibration
verification in AUG2016.

The currents are within "Measurement range setting Range 1," but the meter
is set in auto range mode. I plan some additional experiments using defined
ranges, rather than auto in the next day or so.


Peter Tarver

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