Thank you, Pete.

I have received an initial response from Kikusui requesting additional 
information about the EUT and the test setup.

I haven't looked at the waveforms yet, other than voltage. That's on the docket.

Regarding the matter of scale, (as I'm sure you're aware) the Simpson 228 uses 
multiple measurement networks and was the first commercially available leakage 
current meter to address UL 1459 requirements. The Burn Hazard setting 
(corresponding to 61010-1, Figure A.3, and the Kikusui TOS3200, Network A) is 
100 mA full scale and I am trying to measure current below 1 mA.

For shock hazard (Let Go and Reaction), the scale is OK.


Peter Tarver

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pete Perkins
> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 23:17
>
> Peter,
>
> Altho I have no experience with the Kikusui meter, I
> believe that
> you are on the right track chasing these differences.
>
> Since you have a Simpson 228 are you using a scope
> to look at the
> waveforms and get the readings for the scope display?  In
> my work with that
> meter I always looked at the scope display because of the
> better numerical
> resolution from the scope display.  If you have looked at the
> collexion of
> scope pix provided on safetylink you will see these details in
> each scope
> display - the waveforms as well as the digital readout of rms
> and pk-pk
> values.
>
> Not sure what your measured touch current is when
> you say the 228
> doesn't have the sensitivity you need.  The 0.3mA scale
> should easily read
> down to <0.03mA (<30uA) or below.  Or is it you can't read
> the differences
> between two measurements on the meter face?  Use your
> scope reading to get
> the numerical values, as discussed above.
>
> Not sure whether or not you can get scope
> waveform pix from the
> Kikusui unit.
>
> Unfortunately, the use of complex equipment takes
> some training
> and/or experience to get the correct result each time.  The
> mfgr makes it
> sound so easy but the proof is in the use pudding.
>

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