I seem to recall that long ago, when televisions had vacuum tubes, high voltage 
and high power, fires were an issue. I'm not positive, but I thought that the 
requirements for flame retardants came from investigations of a number of fires 
of plastic enclosed televisions. I believe that the basis for the requirement 
is sound. It's been decades since flammable plastics were commonly used for IT 
and A/V products. The fact that there have been few issues may be due to the 
effectiveness of flame retardants.

Ted Eckert
Microsoft Corporation

The opinions experessed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my 
employer.

From: Pete Perkins <00000061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org>
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 1:46 PM
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Subject: Re: [PSES] Do We Need Flame Retardants in Electronics?

Rich, et al,           Like many issues we see raging around us this is one 
which got caught up in political correctness before it had a large public face. 
 I personally felt that the science of flame retardants is well understood and 
making a change involved adding in risks which were not well understood 
therefore bad practice.  Thanx for bring this around again.

:>)     br,      Pete

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retardant chemicals of the types and concentrations used in consumer products 
have resulted in death or injury reduction," says Vytenis 
Babrauskas<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.scientificamerican.com%2Farticle%2Fdo-furniture-flame-retardants-save-enough-lives-justify-environmental-damage%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cted.eckert%40microsoft.com%7C6f8624a753274fc2dda608d73ae6f790%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C1%7C637042635984050495&sdata=k0o04eDHG0IbRIzN9hu559U5Pt3dlddOXHZngjKEt2c%3D&reserved=0>...

The article is more than 5 years old.  Nevertheless, thought-provoking.

Enjoy!

Rich
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