Fortunately, I had the full support of upper management and use of pretest facilities in-house (a lot of which I built). I dealt with varied product types across multiple compliance disciplines, environments & countries. Some products were variants to some degree and others were new designs.
I still kind of miss it as it kept me very busy with long nights, but my head was truly full of mush at the end & I'm glad I'm out now. Great friday question (made me reminisce). Ron Pickard Sent from my smartphone On Jun 25, 2021, 10:05 PM, at 10:05 PM, Douglas E Powell <doug...@gmail.com> wrote: >Amusing indeed. > >I have a few private answers about companies who have succeeded, but I >suspect that many new products that passed first time were mainly >variants >of exisiting product lines. My question was about new product >introductions. > >I am know several design engineers who have learned by way of the >school of >hard knocks, and either they design for compliance or at the very least >submit designs to someone like myself before calling in the safety >agency. > >Doug > >On Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 6:07 PM Ron Pickard <ronpick...@cox.net> wrote: > >> Amusing anecdotes so far, but no answers for Doug yet. >> >> Over the years in a time long ago (retired for a few years now) I >gained >> much success with first time submissions with experience >(relationships >> with labs & agencies were also important for this). >> >> The big continuing annoyance was with product variations found during >> factory inspections due to part availability issues and manufacturer >> ingenuity (loved working those variation notices). >> >> Enjoying retirement & best regards, >> >> Ron Pickard >> *Sent from my smartphone* >> On Jun 25, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Douglas E Powell <doug...@gmail.com> >wrote: >>> >>> Out of curiosity, >>> >>> I would like to know (especially from those who have been in the >business >>> for a while) what is your "first pass success rate" for safety >>> certifications on new product introductions? That is, to achieve a >product >>> safety certification from an accredited laboratory with no action >items >>> required coming out of the preliminary design review. It's helpful >if you >>> can indicate how complex the projects are. >>> >>> In my 26 years as a compliance engineer, I've observed possibly >three in >>> total for products with a reasonably high complexity. >>> >>> Thanks! Doug >>> -- >>> >>> Douglas E Powell >>> doug...@gmail.com >>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01 >>> >>> - >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society >emc-pstc >>> discussion list. 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