Guys thanks a TON for the suggestions and info, I will be looking into  
them and I'll letcha know what the outcome is!

-pat

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On Nov 10, 2009, at 2:06 PM, Gene Heskett <[email protected]>  
wrote:

> On Tuesday 10 November 2009, Pat Lyons wrote:
>> my photo attachment of the red slide unit was rejected cause it was  
>> too big
>> a file.
>>
>> I have a new question though-
>>
>> is it possible that these encoders can be counted on both the  
>> rising and
>> falling edge of both signals?
>> in other words:
>>
>> if I count the falling edges on one wire as *640 falling edges per  
>> inch*,
>> does this actually mean its *640 x 2* for rising and falling edges?  
>> then x2
>> again for two signal quadrature?  or is the quadrature pair only to  
>> provide
>> direction information?
>>
>> thanks!
>> -pat
>
> Pat: There are logic diagrams extant here on the web, check the  
> major chip
> makers sites for application notes (and the wiki.linuxcnc.org pages  
> too) and
> even complete chips available today that can derive from those  
> quadrature
> outputs, a complete, valid # of steps and instant direction from  
> them.  The
> only use for the index pulse is so that the count can be zeroed at a  
> specific
> point in the rotation.  And in order for this to not have a  
> potential of a
> one or two count ambiguity is if the index pulse is narrower than a  
> single
> edge count going either way, eg the index must be narrow enough, and  
> well
> centered in the time frame where both A&B are high or both A&B are  
> low.
> Either that, which requires some decent precision in making the  
> encoder, or a
> method worked out in the logic so that it will only use one edge of  
> the index
> pulse, and which edge corresponds to the instant state of the  
> direction
> signal.  I haven't worked out that bit of logic but I believe it  
> could be
> done.  And it would certainly present the least restrictions on how  
> sloppily
> the encoder is made.
>
> Thinking about the index 'problem', it might be possible to use the  
> index
> pulse edge detected by the correct edge via using the instant  
> direction state
> to select which edge of the index was actually the correct one.
>
> Here are 2 chips that might be usable:
> <http://www.avagotech.com/docs/AV02-0096EN>
>
> And also Pico Systems (our own Jon Elson) makes a board that can  
> apparently
> handle 4 encoders, but I wasn't able to make the web page show me  
> much about
> it.  It does 24 bit counting.
>
> Other choices are just a google away.
>
> -- 
> Cheers, Gene
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