Hello john,

Thanks for your explaination, i've forgotten to talk about the mechanical
situation of the machine.

I've always thought about using a worm gear reduction because it's farther
more secure than direct pulley reduction, the only problem with the worm and
gear is that the revolutions will be decreased a lot, then i would need a
transmission or another motor to use the axis as a spindle drive. This is a
little bit complicated since i would like to make the machine the simpler as
i can.

But may be it would be better to start with a motor reduced by a worm and
gear transmission, and think about getting high speeds later... because what
i need the most is to mill the lobes, so i don't really need high rpm at the
moment but i needed to clear the doubt.

So thanks again for your answers :)

Regards.

Leonardo.



2010/5/5 John Kasunich <jmkasun...@fastmail.fm>

>
>
> On Wed, 05 May 2010 11:03 -0300, "Leonardo Marsaglia"
> <leonardomarsagli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm trying to understand this because my idea is to mill lobe shapes for
> > making camshafts, and it would be very nice to make the roughing process
> > with a mill.
> >
>
> >
> > I'm trying to clear my doubts before i start to spend money on servos and
> > encoders..
> >
> > Thanks again and i hope i've clean about my doubt.
> >
>
> So far the discussion has been all about the technical details
> of how to control the motor, encoder counts, etc.  However, when
> I look at this application, the first thing I think about is
> stiffness.
>
> A conventional rotary positioning axis uses a worm gear or other
> mechanical reduction so that large cutting forces applied to the
> workpiece can be resisted by relatively modest torque from the
> motor.  In addition, the gearbox reduces the inevitable small
> motor position changes to very very small workpiece position
> changes.  A direct drive spindle motor will have to have enormous
> torque and very good tuning to achieve the same stiffness.
>
> Good PID tuning might be able to reduce the steady state error,
> but when an individual flute of a spinning end mill applies a
> brief force to the axis, the axis will move.  Only after it moves
> will there be a position error that the PID can use to drive the
> axis back to the proper position.
>
> Just because a particular motor works well driving the spindle
> in lathe mode does NOT mean it will be even close to good enough
> for direct drive positioning.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Kasunich
> --
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>  jmkasun...@fastmail.fm
>
>
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