On Mon, 2010-10-11 at 17:18 -0500, Stuart Stevenson wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Chris Radek <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Stuart, long ago when we figured out how to set the scaling, you wrote
> > this:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 03:32:31PM -0500, Stuart Stevenson wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >   I checked the DAC output - it was .889 - I changed the scale from 8.89
> > to
> > > .889 - the response was back to just like before.
> > >   The config files to match this picture are available
> > >   The latest picture is;
> > > http://www.mpm1.com:8080/machines/enshu/Screenshot-1.png
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately this picture is gone, but I remember it looking *really*
> > good and I commented on it.  It was within a few encoder counts on a
> > rapid.  What happened since then?  It seems like you had a major
> > regression of some kind.
> >
> no regression
> 
> http://www.mpm1.com:8080/machines/Screenshot1.png
> http://www.mpm1.com:8080/machines/Screenshot2.png
> http://www.mpm1.com:8080/machines/Screenshot3.png
> http://www.mpm1.com:8080/machines/Screenshot4.png
> 
> The pictures show some of the progression during tuning. Number 4 is the
> final result. My questions have been trying to figure out why the traces
> have the spikes like they do.
But if I read things correctly you are only driving at 4 V  (#4 ) 
not 9 V or so. 
I set the Mazak at 20 for accel but I also only push it to half speed
(3.25 ips). 



>   I set the max vel at 6.6666 to be just under 400 ipm and the scale at 6 to
> give 9 volts output and then tuned from there. This gives motion that looks
> and feels good but still has the spikes on the beginning of the accel and
> the beginning of the decel until I get close to the final tune and then it
> has the spikes on all four corners as shown. I don't have a serious problem
> with the machine is it moves I am just trying to figure out why this is. I
> should be able to tune it out.
>   I still want a simple (dumb) amp and let EMC2 close the loop. I understand
> a Fanuc servo system is a fine system I just don't believe it is better than
> what EMC2 will do by itself, This old Fanuc is probably not as good as what
> EMC2 can do.

1980 Fanuc drives are not likely to have the freq response of newer
drives. ( 3 phase scr switched on the Mazak).  My Servo Dynamics are 2
KHz + drives and DC.  Not quite the same as your requirements. 

>   I will shortly bypass the tach feedback on a servo system to take the
> servo drives tuning out of the equation. It will probably be the Cinci as
> the Enshu does not have tach feedback. We will see how that might work.
>   A tach is set up at X volts/thousand rpm. EMC2 puts out Y volts/thousand
> rpm. I will need to set up two DACS per servo drive and scale between the
> two DACs. Hook one to the velocity input and one to the tach feedback input.
> This will cause the drive to read the motor speed as matching the requested
> speed at all times. This will keep the drive from calculating and adding any
> tuning to the output. This will allow EMC2 to close the loop.
> having some fun now
> thanks
> Stuart
> 
Indeed, tuning is always interesting. ;-)

Dave




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