Mach3 works ok for open loop if you don't modify it.

If you do..start doing macros, etc you will spend an inordinate amount 
of time overcoming bugs, and "undocumented features".    It can be a 
real time eater working around issues.   And oftentimes things will pop 
up out of no where and bite
you even after you "think" you have found all of the bugs..

The reason why there is so much traffic on the Mach3 support forums is 
because support is required to make it do what you want if you do 
anything outside of a "box stock" standard install.

I have EMC2 running on some open loop systems with heavy modifications 
on production machines and it is rock solid reliable.

Set it up, configure it, test it, run the machine, train the operator, 
leave, then call the customer in a few months to check to make sure they 
didn't go out of business.  ;-)

Seriously.  EMC2 is very reliable when properly setup.

Dave

On 4/23/2011 11:14 AM, Robert Pabon wrote:
> Mark, It isn't that dire, I don't think. I just think that there are a lot of 
> nuances and compromises. I think if you are willing to live with some 
> compromises it isn't that bad, but then again I am just getting started.
>
> Here is my understanding of what I need so far:
>
> A PC to run EMC.
> I will need a motion control card (i.e the Mesa5I20 or equivalent).
> I will need a servo amp.
> I will need a servo/encoder.
>
> My driver is the pc with the mesa 5I20 card as long as I get an amp that 
> accepts PWM input. If I get an amp that requires an analog +-10V signal I 
> then need to add a 7I33 daughter card to deal with the analog input the amp 
> requires. If I choose an amp which requires a sinusoidal signal, I am not 
> sure what to do since I haven't shopped for an available solution for that 
> yet.
>
> As far as step and direction, yes there are a ton of step and direction and 
> plenty of open loop products out there and to be honest I think that they 
> would be better served being driven by Mach. If you are using an open loop 
> system, or closing the loop outside of the machine control software then that 
> is what mach is really set up for and that is where the product support base 
> is.
>
> Rob
>
> --- On Sat, 4/23/11, Mark Wendt (Contractor)<mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil>  wrote:
>
>    
>> From: Mark Wendt (Contractor)<mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil>
>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Motion control cards
>> To: robertpa...@corseusa.com, "Enhanced Machine Controller 
>> (EMC)"<emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Date: Saturday, April 23, 2011, 3:57 AM
>> On 4/22/2011 5:26 PM, Robert Pabon
>> wrote:
>>      
>>> Man my head is starting to spin! No wonder people just
>>>        
>> go with steppers and call it a day. Maybe my vision is
>> clouded by ignorance but it doesn't seem like it should be
>> that hard to pick up a brushless DC motor, a suitable amp
>> and make it work. Obviously it would be easier to just buy a
>> sorted motor/driver, but then it would be easier to buy a
>> sorted CNC machine as well.
>>      
>>> So getting back to the motor amp combination for a
>>>        
>> second someone have a look at hese for a minute and tell me
>> what you think.
>>      
>>> This is the motor I am using:
>>>
>>> http://www.servodynamics.com/Drawing/23S-IE.pdf
>>>
>>> I am using the IG23CS-64-IE2000-S
>>>
>>> Servo dynamics recommends the  1224-BLS driver
>>>        
>> for this motor. The 1224BL is the comparable amp:
>>      
>>> http://www.servodynamics.com/Specs/1224bl_spec.pdf
>>>
>>> And here are the amps I was looking at using:
>>>
>>> http://www.a-m-c.com/download/datasheet/bd30a8.pdf
>>>
>>> Servo dynamics says I am fine driving with either
>>>        
>> sinusoidal or trapezoidal. The AMC is trapezoidal. Obviously
>> need to add a filter card, but otherwise it looks to be in
>> the ballpark. Opinions?
>>
>>
>> Okay, I'm getting a bit overwhelmed here too.  I'm
>> currently using
>> steppers on my saw beveler, but have future thoughts of
>> upgrading to a
>> servo based system.  So, if what Robert shows as
>> necessary, for one axis
>> I'd need a servo, an amp, a driver, a bunch of cards for
>> the pc end of
>> the affair, an O scope, tons of other test equipment...
>>
>> Have I left anything out?  ;-)
>>
>> I'm really beginning to wonder if it's worth the expense.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>      
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