i have tryed this also u can get close u will not get Servo 
performance/position resolutions but u can get close.. hence why they 
say servo like on VFDs spec sheets

and it does make a big diff what level of VFD you use also some are alot 
better at this than others..

Yaskawa do some very clearver VFDs with Vector/servo like performance
control techniques or Emerson in US also do very good drives there 
Unidrive model i think it is

depends how big a VFD you need and if you already have motors etc i guess..
as when looking at more fancy spec VFDs price does come into play and 
servo setup can be had for same sort of price some times..

rob

On 19/01/2012 00:40, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
> Hello to everybody on this list.
>
> I've been working for almost two years with LinuxCNC software (the old EMC
> hehe) and steppers driving an old Schaudt cam/lobe grinding machine. Now
> it's time to improve the system and change the steppers for something with
> more speed, specially for the Z axis. Anyway, the idea is to keep the costs
> as low as possible. That's the main reason to not to use servo motors.
>
> A year ago more or less, Andy Pugh showed that it's not a crazy idea to use
> a conventional three phase induction motor and a VFD in closed loop with
> LinuxCNC software for positioning. Anyway, Andy told that his VFD was old,
> and it couldn't respond well below 200 rpm. Nevertheless, the experiment
> that Andy did, was really good and impressive. Here is a video of that
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oTJNEVpvYY.
>
> My question is, what do you guys think, about using an induction motor,
> reduced with worm and gear and driven by a vectorial VFD, (also there are
> newer ones that apparently can keep full torque at zero speed), to drive a
> joint and control position with minimum increments of about 100 pulses of
> encoder (I'm planning to use an encoder of about 1000 pulses per turn). So
> this would be 1/10 of a motor turn.
>
> Do you think this is achievable taking all of this in consideration?. I
> mean, the reduction with worm and gear reduces the inertia factor almost to
> nothing, so the deceleration of the motor would be practically
> instantaneous. And also the motor would need to turn mostly at high speeds
> because of the worm, even better if a use full torque at zero speed VFD.
>
> I hope you can help me with this, since the idea is not to risk too much
> spending money on solutions that can't work at all. I'll ve very thanked if
> you could guide me with this replacement.
>
> Thanks in advance as always for your help!
>


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