John, Using the BBB is bleeding edge. But you should know that if you are frequenting the Machinekit email list.
>>For me to have to be conversant in all things Linux for only the machine control side of things on a BBB is a real waste of time when everything else I do must be done on Windows. My clients expect it. No one is making you use the BBB, that is your choice.. You will get bloody! >>>And there in a nutshell is the reason Windows and Macs outnumber Linux for PCs used by almost everyone. Blah blah blah.... refer to the first line again. :-) >> But for the Linux proponent I'm a troglodyte who just hasn't found the light of the wonders of Linux. If you want to make your LinuxCNC experience easy, get yourself some proven PC hardware and some known supporting hardware and the live DVD for LinuxCNC 2.7 and install it. Want to know why this is all worthwhile? When you install a system on a commercial machine that is run every day and after commissioning and training they never call you with problems! I need to think about where I have installed machines because I only hear from them when the hardware fails or they want another machine conversion. Out of character behavior, like your router taking off and slamming into the stops just doesn't happen. And that makes all of this very worthwhile! :-) Dave On 9/20/2015 11:47 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: > Hi Mark, > I'm using the latest BeagleBone Black Debian and I've been told on this > forum that the Machinekit for BBB was forked off from the original EMC and > not to ask for help here. So I don't. > > The executable application dragged onto the desktop folder (not the desktop) > shows up on the desktop. And then clicking on that executable results in a > dialog popping up every single time with the question as to whether I want > to run it, or run it in a command window, or cancel. Also the icon for the > app is the generic gear icon. A right click dialog does not have options to > change that. > I solved the problem after a an hour or two of searching. Edit the shortcut > file in a command line editor and add the appropriate instructions to > prevent the dialog pop up and add in the path to the correct icon file. > Should all that be on the right click dialog? Of course it should. But > it's not. > And there in a nutshell is the reason Windows and Macs outnumber Linux for > PCs used by almost everyone. Forcing someone to use the command line > interface for a graphical user interface application is embedded into the > brain of the Linux fans as "not a problem". It is a problem! A huge one! > But for the Linux proponent I'm a troglodyte who just hasn't found the light > of the wonders of Linux. > > I think I fair discussion for LinuxCNC would be on a version that separates > how the physical machine interface is done and how the graphical user > interface and G-Code/ladder logic/macro language is done. For me to have to > be conversant in all things Linux for only the machine control side of > things on a BBB is a real waste of time when everything else I do must be > done on Windows. My clients expect it. Some of the tools only run on > windows. So the argument to use WINE or some other VBox falls apart when > something like the In Circuit Debugger doesn't run in the VBox. > > So let's put that 'religious' argument aside too. > > >From an embedded perspective what was available 5 years ago to what is > available now is very different. A BBB with an Ethernet connection like the > Ethernet Smooth Stepper could likely do everything the Real Time part of > Linux is doing. Especially with the two 200MHz Co-Processors. It might > have to run a dedicated RTOS rather than real time Linux to be effective but > if the Real Time component is removed from LinuxCNC is there any reason that > part can't run as a Windows or iOS Application? > > And maybe that's a Fork in the code that is finally a really good idea. > > John > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mark Wendt [mailto:wendt.m...@gmail.com] >> Sent: September-20-15 4:08 AM >> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Porting LinuxCNC(EMC) to Windows was CAD/CAM >> for LinuxCNC >> >> >> On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 2:49 PM, John Dammeyer <jo...@autoartisans.com> >> wrote: >>> Ultimately remoting into the BBB still means learning two operating >> systems >>> when 99.9% of my work is done under Windows. >>> >>> To drag a drop a file onto the desktop on the Debian BBB MachineKit port >>> involves dragging it to the desktop folder and then using the ever > present >>> and needed text editor to edit the shortcut to make it work properly > with >>> the correct icon. >>> >>> In windows you drag it onto the desktop. Period. If you want to change >>> parameters right click and change stuff in a dialog. No command line >>> needed. >>> >>> So if LinuxCNC is to be used in windows getting rid of the "Linux Guru >>> required" option is a major feature. >>> >>> John >> Are you talking about a regular file, or an executable? Either way, >> you can right-click on an icon and adjust the properties there, and >> make the file executable if you wish, which has been available since >> at least 10.04 LTS.. All done through the GUI. On my Ubuntu machines >> at home and work, I can drag and drop, or cut and paste. Maybe that's >> a legacy of the version of Debian being used in the MachineKit port? >> >> >> Mark >> -- >> One Man, One Machine, One Computer! <VBSEG> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- >> _______________________________________________ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
