On 20 Feb 2016, at 09:29, Gene Heskett wrote:

> On Saturday 20 February 2016 02:49:15 Marcus Bowman wrote:
> 
>> On 20 Feb 2016, at 02:31, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> Greetings all;
>>> 
>>> I am not haveing any luck finding one smaller than 3/8 radius, and I
>>> need one that cuts with a 1/8" radius.
>>> 
>>> Any body know of a place I might be able to source one that small?
>> 
>> Not sure where might be close to you, but I have one which I got at a
>> local wood turners' store. It is a 1/8inch gouge tool, but I made it
>> into something more like a fingernail tool by grinding. I just copied
>> the shape of one of my larger fingernail gouges. With a tool that
>> small in section, it needs support close to the cutting edge, because
>> I find mine prone to chatter unless the rest is set close in. I would
>> be inclined to fix it in a 5/8inch sleeve machined with a tapered
>> nose.
>> 
>> I can also highly recommend the Drozda Finial Gouge, which takes
>> things a stage further. Cuts beautifully when used by hand. You can
>> buy one here: http://www.cindydrozda.com/html/Tool_Info.html
>> 
>> but I bought the DVD which shows you how to make one (too far away for
>> the expensive carriage on the tool to make sense). There is a youTube
>> video around which shows much the same thing, I think. There used to
>> be a clip on the Drozda site, as I recall.
>> 
>> Marcus
> 
> But Marcus, I am not doing this by hand, or even on a wood lathe, this 
> would be a router bit, chucked in my milling machine, possibly making 
> multiple passes to get the correct edge profile.

Point taken; sorry.
So could you do this using a ball-nosed end mill?  Or could you reshape an end 
mill?


>  The workpiece is 
> clamped in a vise mounted on the table, jacked up to achieve the correct 
> tilt.
> 
> I considered making a planer/molder wheel of the type that uses 
> interchangeable knives, but I haven't come up with a planer/shaper blade 
> to do that either. Blank molding knives ISTR one could once buy, but the 
> grizzly catalog has none today. Worse comes to worse, I have some 1/2" x 
> 1/8" unhardened A2 but I am not set up to do the hardening.  That I can 
> shape with a 1/4" SC mill, lapping the face on a 12,000 grit water stone 
> to sharpen it but no idea if it could do 72 ends of these mahogany 
> things without several trips to the powered waterstone. At 1.75" radius 
> of knife holder, a single tooth at 2500 revs should do it, and I do have 
> the raw stuff on hand to make that.  

Sounds viable and would probably give you the same result as the end mill, but 
with fewer passes.

Marcus

> And the weather is looking good for 
> tomorrow too, so I won't freeze my feet.
> 
> I need 2 tilting vises, I hate disturbing the angle its set at right now 
> as its hard to restore exactly. No vernier drive on the tilt.  Cheap $60 
> Snears & Takeitback vise.  But it is solid.
> 
>>> A fingernail bit is not quite a beading bit as the ends of the
>>> cutters are at a 90 degree angle to each other, 45 degrees off axis
>>> for both upper and lower "wings".  I need to roundover the ends of
>>> these trim pieces, but do it in 3d by tipping the vise 45 degrees so
>>> the meeting line of two curves is horizontal and I can then cut a
>>> curve of the same radius as if a 1/8" roundover was used.  But since
>>> its two curves meeting, and LCNC can't cut a 3d curve, I don't see
>>> another way to do it without the fingernail style tool.
>>> 
> Thanks everybody.
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
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