On Sunday 08 April 2018 02:00:59 Lawrence Glaister wrote:

> Hi Chris,
>
> For the PCB milling, I used to use eagle and the pcbgcode plugin for
> the longest time. Eagle got kind of funky after autocad bought them
> and is now mostly a subscription service.
>
> I now use kicad for the schematic and pcb design and an open source
> program called pcb2gcode to convert gerbers to gcode files for
> linuxcnc. I just completed a board I sent off to
> https://www.seeedstudio.com/fusion.html for production. Smooth as silk
> and unbeatable prices. (10 boards 3.8x2.5" for $4.41(March Sale) +
> shipping).
>
Post pix when you get them back please.

> I then designed and milled a small board for a calibration jig and
> used the pcb2gcode to convert the bottom copper gerber to linuxcnc
> gcode files. Again, pretty smooth once one gets the isolation and
> offset parameters figured out.
>
> I think kicad is a much superior package to eagle and has no
> restrictions on boards size or schematic size. As with learning a new
> cad system, it took a couple of youtube videos and a couple of days of
> practice, but it really only took a few days to go from nothing to
> ordering pcbs. Well worth the investment in time. The current kicad V4
> release worked the best for me.... I tried V5 from git, but it wasnt
> quite workable yet. The advantage of V5 is that it will be able to
> import eagle project schematic and PCB files.
>
> I have done quite a few PCBs by milling, and there are a few tricks
> like using wider traces and trying to keep most surface mount parts
> and traces on the bottom layer and use the top layer for jumpers and
> through hole parts to avoid 2 sided milling. One sided pcbs are much
> less critical to mill as they are milled, drilled and cutout without
> changing the mounting. This avoids a lot of headaches of trying to get
> top and bottom layers aligned.
>
> cheers
> Lawrence Glaister VE7IT
> Nanoose Bay BC, Canada
>
> On 2018-04-07 10:05 PM, Chris Albertson wrote:
> > Is anyone using a CNC mill to make PCBs?  The video linked below
> > shows someone doing this on a small mill with Mach 3.  The PCB is
> > certainly not high tech.  The parts are all through hole with 0.1
> > inch lead pitch and it is one side only.  Right out of the 1970's
> > but it is exactly what I want to make.   More complex PCBs can go to
> > oshpark
> >
> > Is there a Linux based tool chain?   The part I don't see is how to
> > convert Gerber files to g-code files.
> >
> > Then what tools work best?  I think three are needed tiny end mill
> > to route copper, Tiny spiral mill for cutting the PCB all the way
> > through and a few micro side drill bits for the through holes.
> >
> > BTW it seems like the guy in the video could have saved a lot of
> > time by using a (fake) ground plane that flooded all the empty
> > space.  No need to mill all that copper away.
> >
> > https://youtu.be/xM8sTEw3OLQ?t=5m41s
>
I too have seen eagle fall apart recently. I'll see about kicad for my 
next board.  Thanks Lawrence for the heads up, I thought it was me.
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